SiJ Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Not sure what is worse. The absolute shambles that the club is seemingly in, or having to read the diatribe of chief c0ckwombler himself, Mr Farrell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, toppOwl said: Wasn't Bruno who was an excellent full back for Brighton in their promotion season about 36, he's still playing for them occasionally this season. I think you'll find that Bruno is in fact Rasputin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: I'll say it again - you can't charge over £100 a head and make a loss serving them a 4 course meal. It depends what else you factor in as costs. There are 1001 things that need paying for at the football club, including the players wages that people in the boxes are paying to see. If you wanted to work out if a cinema was making money you'd factor in the cost of the rights to show the movies. How does that work with exec boxes? It's virtually impossible to accurately say what a box does or doesn't make. But if you have two companies offering the same service, employee the same amount of people and delivery the same experience in this case a match day one charges £48,000 the other charges £19,000 as a business not a fan which company will you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, toppOwl said: Wasn't Bruno who was an excellent full back for Brighton in their promotion season about 36, he's still playing for them occasionally this season. You get exceptions to every rule, but most players over 30 are in decline and some are knackered. With Vardy not starting career in earnest until mid 20s for example will last longer than a normal pacey forward. Others such as Abdi his legs had gone when he signed for us only way you can explain difference in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's like he's asking for forgiveness for selling a player, we all know as fans that football is a business as well, sell and rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, jonesy87shef said: Many people have suggested that I invested the amount of money I did – and continue to do – in order to achieve promotion to the Premier League. But this is not correct. I invested these sums to stay in the Championship, to ensure we would have the best chance of avoiding relegation. If promotion came, then great, but building from the bottom gave us the best opportunity of getting to the top. I won’t be able to find the quote but wasn’t the aim and emphasis always on promotion? That’s his words, hence high prices etc. I thought anyway. I recall he said it was promotion in two years. Either way, his statement is a load of tosh. When he purchased the club, it was already a mid-table side. Are we expected to believe stacks of cash was spunked up a wall just to stave off relegation? Was relegation even a concern when he purchased the club? FFS! And what's this about the same recruitment team being in place? You kept on board the team which is arguably responsible for this mess? And you're saying it like it's a good thing. FFS! Kudos for the statement, but it only reinforces what we've been saying all along. And this doesn't mean DC is a bad bloke, it just means he's crap at running a football club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Dear Mr Chansiri, Please just sell some players. You may have not noticed, but quite a few of them have done the sweet sum of F all since we lost to Huddersfield a year and a half ago. If someone is willing to stump a bit of cash for them, then just get rid. The vast, vast majority of fans are quite happy for you to do so. Let's stop beating around the bush and get on with it. Ta, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, room0035 said: But if you have two companies offering the same service, employee the same amount of people and delivery the same experience in this case a match day one charges £48,000 the other charges £19,000 as a business not a fan which company will you use. Our are not £48k so it a flawed comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, BRADDO said: Absolutely. It's bizarre. I can only assume that Bruce simply cannot turn down the amazing salary offered by DC. The paradox is that by the time we've paid up Jos's contract, signed up SB and his assistants, there is feck all left for transfers or loans. DC sees SB as a promotion specialist but he can't succeed here with both his hands tied financially. There's only 92 jobs in the whole country -assuming he doesn't want to go to Scotland or Northern Ireland. Most of those are less appealing than Wednesday and he hasn't got a chance to grab one of the really top jobs. Knock those out of the equation and turning down the Wednesday job when you are unemployed becomes a big thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I believe Steve Bruce will be pushing ahead and bringing players in and they will be replacements for the ones that leave this window...sell for more buy for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I read this and i feel i wish he did think about profit and think of wednesday as a business a bit more please. Doing transfers and recruitment with your heart doesn't sound like a good idea. We need to sign players for small amounts and turn them into stars who either get us promoted or we can sell on for more and re-invest. Sell Reach, Bannan, Joao. Just don't let us get into a mess like Bolton or Coventry. Run us like a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Quist said: Think influence waned a bit under JL on football side and think it has been reduced even more on football side with SB appointment. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, toppOwl said: Our are not £48k so it a flawed comparison. really how much are they then, they were when we got the details through from SWFC last summer we used to have one you see but when the prices kept rising a lot each year my directors decided on a company policy to use Rotherham United instead. Not because they are Rotherham fans but because they offer a better value for money service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, SiJ said: Dear Mr Chansiri, Please just sell some players. You may have not noticed, but quite a few of them have done the sweet sum of F all since we lost to Huddersfield a year and a half ago. If someone is willing to stump a bit of cash for them, then just get rid. The vast, vast majority of fans are quite happy for you to do so. Let's stop beating around the bush and get on with it. Ta, Some clearly aren't going to get a game, so subsidised loans or discussions for mutual agreement to terminate contracts early would be on my agenda. Surely recouping 50% for example against wages is better than carrying 100% of their wage until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, rickygoo said: There's only 92 jobs in the whole country -assuming he doesn't want to go to Scotland or Northern Ireland. Most of those are less appealing than Wednesday and he hasn't got a chance to grab one of the really top jobs. Knock those out of the equation and turning down the Wednesday job when you are unemployed becomes a big thing to do. After reading the Chansiri Statement I am surprised Bruce took the job. Really cant believe Bruce needs the money, I thought it must be because FFP problems where not as big as we imagined. Bruce really got his work cut out to be anything more then a mid table side at best. Can only think he is a bit of a workaholic. Since he has been announced at Wednesday jobs at Stoke and Forest have come up so must have known a Championship offer would come along sooner or later. Be interesting to see where we are in 18 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, bigdan2003 said: Open and honest. Say what you like about him, he clearly flippin cares. Dont think theres any doubt he cares but likewise he has also been very naive in some of his dealings. It seems to me the only option is to sell our main playing assets Bannan and Reach for 18 to 20 million if we can find buyers. If we dont sell then we could be in serious trouble in squad numbers for next season , taking into account how many players are out of contract at the end of the season and probable FFP restrictions on the clubs ability to recruit replacements. Think its time to bite the bullet and plan ahead for next season by letting clubs know we are open to offers for any player on the books. How many would attract reasonable offers is open to debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, HarrowbyOwl said: Based on what? JL did not take any of loan players offered to him by DC in first window, presumably these were from usual source. He also said about bringing in younger players he realised we had very old squad for this league and we had constantly recruited in this area. I understand good money can be made by agents with players signed on free transfers. With Bruce past performance, he did not like Villas scouting of players and used own contacts to sign players this summer. Bruce knows players required and has done well in this league. He has made good acquisitions in past and used loan market excellently. Its an assumption but think he will use own contacts and we will sign a better quality of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Quist said: JL did not take any of loan players offered to him by DC in first window, presumably these were from usual source. He also said about bringing in younger players he realised we had very old squad for this league and we had constantly recruited in this area. I understand good money can be made by agents with players signed on free transfers. With Bruce past performance, he did not like Villas scouting of players and used own contacts to sign players this summer. Bruce knows players required and has done well in this league. He has made good acquisitions in past and used loan market excellently. Its an assumption but think he will use own contacts and we will sign a better quality of player. Agree, the Kebano link has Bruce's fingerprints all over it. Not taken them long to work out we need some pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Dont think theres any doubt he cares but likewise he has also been very naive in some of his dealings. It seems to me the only option is to sell our main playing assets Bannan and Reach for 18 to 20 million if we can find buyers. If we dont sell then we could be in serious trouble in squad numbers for next season , taking into account how many players are out of contract at the end of the season and probable FFP restrictions on the clubs ability to recruit replacements. Think its time to bite the bullet and plan ahead for next season by letting clubs know we are open to offers for any player on the books. How many would attract reasonable offers is open to debate. I don't think we will get that much for players leaving this window, there's no favours in football, and having come out and said we are basically abit desperate we are setting ourselves up for some lowballers. There arnt ques of clubs lining up for reach or Bannan or anyone else for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, keepitsteel89 said: I don't think we will get that much for players leaving this window, there's no favours in football, and having come out and said we are basically abit desperate we are setting ourselves up for some lowballers. There arnt ques of clubs lining up for reach or Bannan or anyone else for that matter Sadly I have to agree. Reach and Bannan are only worth what anyone is willing to pay. The rest of the squad has little sale value. Maybe one of the young keepers could attract a bid but the squad looks old and slow not what other teams are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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