pgmetcalf Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 at the back is never a good idea ... in any team. Especially in a team that is playing with only one experienced defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I likeThornilly, and Penney, but if we're going to play 3 at the back, how about Pudil, Lees,and Hutch - plenty of experience infront of a young keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Yep, have to defend as a team throughout and I thought it bizarre that Reach was instructed to play so advanced when we had an attacking 3 as well and he did nothing to stop Woods playing. Might work against teams that play for a point at Hillsborough but that was clearly not how Stoke lined up. Made for a very entertaining game but perhaps not the best tactics. I could see the idea of it with Fletcher dragging people about and Reach exposing the space. Just didn't come off for us. Equally I thought Joao was superb in his defensive work yesterday but he's best moments came when he was able to get inside and play off Fletch when we had possession. It's a work in progress isn't it. An excellent point over all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Both cbs were poor for stokes goals, ball watching and outdone by decent movement. No better time for hector to be given a chance and wouldnt rule out dropping lees for hutch if hes getting too comfortable either. Midfield could be more solid moving reach deeper and bringing onomah in for joey but results are still better than when we were 5 at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristmace Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, hirstyboywonder said: There was a stat a couple of weeks ago that Dawson had made the most saves in the division, we are wide open at times. Would like to see a source for that. He's done OK overall, but most saves in the division seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 It looks even worse on the highlights - 5 at the back and no marking at all and not even being bothered to tackle at times, but just looking at the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Going completely against the grain. Maybe it's a catch 22 of having a player like Bannan, as a deep lying playmaker, void of any defensive combativeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Owl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Why are people crying out for a 5 back? It didn’t work we don’t have the players for it, we’ve won 3 and drew 1 in our 5 games with a 4 back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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modboy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Thorneley and Hector are surely worth a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I think we are going to have to live with it. The centre back pairing of Lees and Thorniley is a good pairing, not particularly dominant in the air, though that wasn’t the issue yesterday. Palmer and Penney are the best full backs we’ve had for a while. Dawson probably hasn’t learned yet, to organise his defence, and with the experienced Lees, not a natural leader, we will sometimes struggle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 i am surprised at Lees getting so much stick. Thornily completely lost Afobe for the first goal yesterday. He is by far our best defender when the ball goes into the box. As a team we are too open through the middle for reasons already highlighted on here. We are playing most weeks against good quality players and we need to be a lot more disciplined and solid as a team. Personally I would play Hector to see if it does make us stronger at the back but also we need to sort out the make up and personnel in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, oldishowl said: i am surprised at Lees getting so much stick. Thornily completely lost Afobe for the first goal yesterday. He is by far our best defender when the ball goes into the box. As a team we are too open through the middle for reasons already highlighted on here. We are playing most weeks against good quality players and we need to be a lot more disciplined and solid as a team. Personally I would play Hector to see if it does make us stronger at the back but also we need to sort out the make up and personnel in the middle. Are people giving him stick? He’s a good defender, but not necessarily a leader. Yesterday, both central defenders were guilty of switching off, and giving the ball away. However, I wouldn’t say it’s the norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Honestly think we are missing pudil. He organises the defence well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Are people giving him stick? He’s a good defender, but not necessarily a leader. Yesterday, both central defenders were guilty of switching off, and giving the ball away. However, I wouldn’t say it’s the norm People are suggesting he should be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, oldishowl said: People are suggesting he should be dropped. Hmm, yes, not sure they’ve thought that one through. Think Jos brought Hector on to deal with the extra height of Crouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 It may sound daft but we have not been closing down from front as well as we can. FF is very good at this and can win ball or hurry opposition up and make poor pass. Personally have been more concerned about form of person leading the line in they have had lots ofchances and only scored one so far. Currently they have too much time on ball. Also we have not got everything right at once. When team get it together clean sheets will happen. Yesterday Reach, Lees and Palmer had very average games and can all play better. To win games against good opposition you can not afford for 3 players to play below their best. It has been a variety of players who have been not quite at best its a different system and a different line up of players so you can expect this. This is seventh game and their is a resilience and determination about players which have not seen for a good while. We will improve and clean sheets are just round the corner and also think we will give someone a thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Defence is a big concern at the minute. Attacking wise we look strong but we could do with keeping some clean sheets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 of our five most defensive positions are fresh out the U23s - I’m not surprised we’ve shipped a few early doors. I think we’ll tighten up considerably as they continue to bed in. Not overly worried at this point at all. It’s a very new set of partnerships to establish and on that basis - and the basis of our league position after a poor first couple games - they’re doing pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Be reyt. Van Aken will be fit again soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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