Earlsfieldowl Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 00:36, TomtheOwl95 said: Without Hooper I dread to think where we might be now. Probably ok. Amazing how much better players become when they aren’t playing. He is costing us a fortune yet we are getting around half a seasons wort of appearances - another croc. This sort of thing really needs to stop and we need players who can play 35 games plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, GHS said: Asked him before game on Friday and he confirmed to me he won't play this season. Gutted. Shame but there’s less than 5 weeks left of this season so no real surprise, I don’t think we’ll see anymore players apart from matias returning until next season now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I don't think all these players are duffers. I think it's us. We've always had injury problems at this club. Always. We could sign players with top fitness records, and they'd still be infirm on our books. Does anyone know if that training pitch was relaid when the main pitch was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, DuttyTeabags said: The amount of cash we're wasting right now on crocs is beyond a joke. 10m a season on jizzumble all. Need to try and offload as much of this bobbins as possible close season, incl. Fox + release all out of contracts apart from Nuhui. At least he is fit and gives 100pc for the club whenever called upon. Rhodes/ Fletcher/ Abdi should never wear the colours again, stealing a living. I like Matias in terms of potential and ability but he is worst of all in terms of injury prone. Shame we prioritised overpaid, over the hill hasbeens vs youth and we may not be in the Hirst stalemate. agree we need to wright this all off as a huge mistake ,it will take 2 years at least maybe 3 to clear all the dead wood out and prepare our squad properly with fitter ,younger players ,we cant withstand a 26 million plus wage bill full of deadwood if we want to compete in top 8 over next 1-2 seasons .I'm just hoping financially we will be able to keep forestieri ,bannan etc as we don't know how big our black hole is,and they with reach are our only sellable assets what would bring in big fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: Probably ok. Amazing how much better players become when they aren’t playing. He is costing us a fortune yet we are getting around half a seasons wort of appearances - another croc. This sort of thing really needs to stop and we need players who can play 35 games plus. There's none of that going on here, Hooper is an excellent footballer, its getting him on the pitch that's the issue. His 10 league goals this season are now proving very important given how close to the bottom we have been. The impact he made when he came back at the end of the season and the void he left when he got injured for the playoffs was incredibly noticeable. It's not just his goals, his general play is excellent. Clubs will always take a punt on injury prone players in the hope that they'll steer clear of injury, players who have a track record of playing more games always have a higher market value. The weird thing with Hooper at S6 is that he seems to have had different injuries, when he went off against Fulham last season it was hamstring, now it seems to be his hip? (apparently). Is he a croc, or unlucky? When I saw him with Bannan in the megastore he seemed to be fine which I know was part of the reason some fans were a bit suspicious about the whole thing. It looks to me that he and the club made the decision to sort this injury to give him the best chance next season, as its his last contracted year its a massive season for him. The above being said by my reckoning Hooper has played for us 83 times and has scored 30 goals, so he has been far from a lost cause. Edited April 2, 2018 by Owls2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How bad must his hip be? Is he 84 years old? It’s borderline ridiculous, how can you be out for this long? It would be nice to hear the bottom of it. Yes I understand doctor patient confidentiality but he’s hardly being probed up the bum is he 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Owls2k said: There's none of that going on here, Hooper is an excellent footballer, its getting him on the pitch that's the issue. His 10 league goals this season are now proving very important given how close to the bottom we have been. The impact he made when he came back at the end of the season and the void he left when he got injured for the playoffs was incredibly noticeable. It's not just his goals, his general play is excellent. Clubs will always take a punt on injury prone players in the hope that they'll steer clear of injury, players who have a track record of playing more games always have a higher market value. The weird thing with Hooper at S6 is that he seems to have had different injuries, when he went off against Fulham last season it was hamstring, now it seems to be his hip? (apparently). Is he a croc, or unlucky? When I saw him with Bannan in the megastore he seemed to be fine which I know was part of the reason some fans were a bit suspicious about the whole thing. It looks to me that he and the club made the decision to sort this injury to give him the best chance next season, as its his last contracted year its a massive season for him. The above being said by my reckoning Hooper has played for us 83 times and has scored 30 goals, so he has been far from a lost cause. Excellent footballer? Hmmm..probably stretching things a little far imo He had a reasonable record at this level but the irrefutable fact is that he misses too many games. We cannot mount a constant challenge if we have too many players who can only play in 20 or so games. This season has been a perfect example. Without our core players we are lower Champ at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Where on earth is fletcher too? Has he broken a leg? Because that’s the only reason I have for him missing this much. It’s just all a complete mystery, like what’s even wrong with fletcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki_San Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Earlsfieldowl said: another croc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Where on earth is fletcher too? Has he broken a leg? Because that’s the only reason I have for him missing this much. It’s just all a complete mystery, like what’s even wrong with fletcher? He's had a knee operation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I know we are in the backwoods compared to London ,But surely we have specialist up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: How bad must his hip be? Is he 84 years old? It’s borderline ridiculous, how can you be out for this long? It would be nice to hear the bottom of it. Yes I understand doctor patient confidentiality but he’s hardly being probed up the bum is he Please advise us of your medical qualifications. Do you specialise in sports injury by any chance? Edited April 2, 2018 by Sham67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Where on earth is fletcher too? Has he broken a leg? Because that’s the only reason I have for him missing this much. It’s just all a complete mystery, like what’s even wrong with fletcher? saw fletcher and hooper on Saturday both walking ok .,though ive seen matias quite a few times walking quickly with his bird over last 2 years and we never see him on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: Excellent footballer? Hmmm..probably stretching things a little far imo He had a reasonable record at this level but the irrefutable fact is that he misses too many games. We cannot mount a constant challenge if we have too many players who can only play in 20 or so games. This season has been a perfect example. Without our core players we are lower Champ at best. Not stretching it far at all, at this level he is excellent and without injuries he could have easily played in a side in the bottom 8 of the Premier League. Also, as I mentioned already, Hooper brings more to the game than just his goals. People seem very confused about his 'injury' issues. The first season when he joined us in late October he played through the whole season. It was last season where he did his hamstring and appears to have been rushed back meaning he missed the playoffs. And it is anyone's guess what is going on this season. The player we signed had played 34 games in his previous season, 35 in the season before that and 51 in the one before that. The player we signed was no crock and hopefully if he isn't rushed back we can see him back fully fit next season, as we're a much better team when he is playing. If he has similar issues next year there's no doubt we will have to look elsewhere regrettably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey9 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 29/03/2018 at 12:33, Utah Owl said: Knowing our luck, both GH and KL are done. If that’s the case we will be insured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, handworth52 said: saw fletcher and hooper on Saturday both walking ok .,though ive seen matias quite a few times walking quickly with his bird over last 2 years and we never see him on the pitch. to be fair KL is now walking around fine, he's not in pain and he even said at weekend he thinks he could play now, but the club obviously feel he's not ready yet which is good, shows he's being looked after properly this time and hopefully he will repay that next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How about we suck this season up, admit it was a complete disaster of a 150th both on and off the pitch and move on to the next with hope. DC and his staff have learnt the hard way that you can't 'sub out' running a football club and allow clowns to abuse look after your prized assets. The Club, players and fans should all be back to full fitness by August and we can push on as we should have after 2016/17. UTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: to be fair KL is now walking around fine, he's not in pain and he even said at weekend he thinks he could play now, but the club obviously feel he's not ready yet which is good, shows he's being looked after properly this time and hopefully he will repay that next season Well, if correct, that's the best news I've heard for a long time. Get this lot fit with a proper pre season then we can see what Jos is made of. We have so much ammunition at the club it's frightening. Can't wait for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: to be fair KL is now walking around fine, he's not in pain and he even said at weekend he thinks he could play now, but the club obviously feel he's not ready yet which is good, shows he's being looked after properly this time and hopefully he will repay that next season well that's good to hear ,whats changed since carlos was here ,same medical people ,k lee ready to give it ago ,the difference is clearly this manager wont do what carlos did what was criminal as in sending a player to lilleshall for an injection to get him training following day ,then 2 week later playing after having a major hip op 2-3 months before. I knew that this was a crazy gamble at the time ,hopefully we will have him proper fit by august. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Earlsfieldowl said: Excellent footballer? Hmmm..probably stretching things a little far imo He had a reasonable record at this level but the irrefutable fact is that he misses too many games. We cannot mount a constant challenge if we have too many players who can only play in 20 or so games. This season has been a perfect example. Without our core players we are lower Champ at best. At this level, he is an excellent footballer. One of the best in the division. That isn't stretching things at all. He's been a consistent performer for us throughout his time here. The issue is ensuring he's on the pitch, and not injured off it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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