Guest mkowl Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Was much easier when players played in a numbered position and would wear a different shirt number if they played a different role that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Looks like Alan Irvine's worst nightmare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Someone show jos, guy will have a heart attack at the thought of so few defenders and so many attackers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 who marked the wingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternlad Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The numbers denoted your position to a certain extent, but by the time I started watching Wednesday in 1967 /68 they were lining up with four at the back: 1 Springett 2 Smith. 5 Mobley. 6 Young. 3 Megson 4 Eustace. 8 Mccalliog 11 Pugh 7 Fantham 9 Ritchie 10 Ford or summat like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfast owl lad Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Animis said: who marked the wingers? i was left back,,,,,,,,,,,,,when the team played away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Animis said: who marked the wingers? God I feel old. The job of the 2 fullbacks was to stop the wingers attacking, the job of the centre half was to hold the defence together, the midfielders broke up play , the two inside forwards were attacking midfielders, the job of the wingers was to get down the touchline and cross the ball to the centre forward. They varied it, ofcourse, but at the level I played at,that's how it worked. Numbers meant something, if you got a particular shirt you got a particular job. Basically, two fast men on the wings to cross to a goal scorer in the middle Defending a corner, a man on each post (left footer on right post, right footer on left post, leave a fast man on the halfway line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) That was the ‘WM’. Or 2-3-3-2 I suppose. Read ‘Inverting the Pyramid’ by Jonathon Wilson. Definitive history of tactical and formation changes, with great anecdotes and exploration of why British football is always reluctant to change. Edited March 20, 2018 by Ever the pessimist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 This was standard formation for teams and think only changed about 66 when Ramsey set teamup differently to win world cup. I understand full backs took care of wingers . Centre half marked centre forward and right half looked after inside left and left half loooked after inside right. It was a man v man set up with 5 attacking and 5 defending. The inside and half positions did get involved in both attacking and defending. Full backs andcentre halves were known as hard men in the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, cognacbarnowl said: I think it used to be called the "W" formation. Scarily I remember every one of that team. Me too. Didn't Brian Hill die at a very early age?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Blatter said: Me too. Didn't Brian Hill die at a very early age?? seen a couple of versions of his death , one that he died of heart failure and another that he sadly committed suicide aged 30 ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian joicey Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Inside right! Not heard that mentioned since my school team days in my George best stylo boots and these two were on telly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: This formation is before my time Is it basically just displayed all skewed in the programme? was it like wingers? I recall it a little different to some of the other oldies ........young was a defensive wing half and tommy mac more the play maker further forward ....Wilkinson who wernt much good and Dobson played as wingers , pearson would play deeper alongside tommy mac with the number 9 and fantham as the spearhead .......Quinn didn't last long in the number 9 shirt coz he was only a tich and lost out to hickton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Hookowl said: Original 2 - 3 - 5 formation. Changed late 1960's. mid 60s particularly to 4-4-2 ie Ramsey's England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, ash60s said: mid 60s particularly to 4-4-2 ie Ramsey's England in the 66 brown did play a loose 4-4-2 with 2 wingers usher & Dobson but switched to 4-3-3 for the semi against Chelsea with pugh and Quinn coming in and joining Eustace in a narrow 3 in the middle with smith and megson as the overlapping full backs and stuck with it for the final . .......it was a fluid way as mccalliog who wasn't a typical number 9 sorted floated between attack and midfield .....i'm sure some will have a different view but that's my take on it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Flexibility was that Jimmy Mac could be up front with JF & DF as a 3 when attacking or drop in hole in front of GP PE JQ when we without ball Oh they were happy daze weren't they? and then we changed the strip in 67 and we all know the rest........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 hours ago, @owlstalk said: This formation is before my time Is it basically just displayed all skewed in the programme? was it like wingers? It's very simple, it's the "attack, attack, attack" formation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Quist said: This was standard formation for teams and think only changed about 66 when Ramsey set teamup differently to win world cup. I understand full backs took care of wingers . Centre half marked centre forward and right half looked after inside left and left half loooked after inside right. It was a man v man set up with 5 attacking and 5 defending. The inside and half positions did get involved in both attacking and defending. Full backs andcentre halves were known as hard men in the teams. Yep. It was Alf Ramsey's "wingerless wonders" who changed the "rules" of how football teams lined up in England after the '66 World Cup. However, I seem to recall that the Hungarians, with Puskas and his mates, changed the formation a few years before then when they tore England a new one scoring loads of goals st Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, ash60s said: Flexibility was that Jimmy Mac could be up front with JF & DF as a 3 when attacking or drop in hole in front of GP PE JQ when we without ball Oh they were happy daze weren't they? and then we changed the strip in 67 and we all know the rest........... brown never quite settled on how to play ...he went out and got the best header of a football ive ever seen in Ritchie but then took him a while to realise we had no fecker on the wing to put the crosses in .he'd sold Dobson by then so kept bringing usher back but he was borderline useless.when brown left we then got archie Irvine who was even worse and we never did get the best out of Ritchie . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Musn't Grumble said: Yep. It was Alf Ramsey's "wingerless wonders" who changed the "rules" of how football teams lined up in England after the '66 World Cup. However, I seem to recall that the Hungarians, with Puskas and his mates, changed the formation a few years before then when they tore England a new one scoring loads of goals st Wembley. spot on with that .....I think though he more or less stumbled on to the wingless wonders as in the early games in 66 he played 3 different recognised wingers and all of them failed so must have thought t feck it i'll go without and everyone hailed him a master tactician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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