hasthagotanycheese Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Wonder what would happen IF a central body like the FA set the prices as standard for every club e.g. it's £25 for every club each game in any seat and no more no less, apart from away fans who are £20 Under 23's get in for a quid a game Sorted Absolutely. Its time that the FA started being a governing organisation and stopped kow towing to the clubs. They should: Bring in fixed ticket pricing structures for every division. Squad wage expenditure caps by division Squad size caps Limits on payments to players under 25 Limits on replica kit pricing and frequency of re-design. At the moment football is in thrall to money and the vast sums of cash going into players and agents pockets while facilities and grass roots pitches are left underfunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: For that you can get cineworld cards for two adults to go see as many movies they want for an entire month Movies are movies, they never change from one performance to the next. Football is theatre where you have a loyalty to one side as the drama unfolds. There is no movie in the world that could have sprung that ref on Saturdsy and created the feeling and aftermath from a live, involved audience actually playing a role in the drama. No comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: Maybe, maybe not. You don't always get what you pay for and that's the same either low or high prices I think this season has proved that you don't. We should remember that when the Chairman is asking for more cash from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I think though to many people it's not a case of not going golfing, but other necessities that are more crucial to their lives Only problem is if they don't go then the truefans come on shouting at them "How many games do you go to?" etc etc It's not great if you can't afford to go and it's a really recent phenomenon It's also something that as a fanbase we need to realise, come to terms with and understand how best to deal with it because long term calling those who can't afford to go names, and calling them not proper fans etc isn't going to be a winner for anyone concerned It's worrying Its not though, during the late 70’s I couldn’t afford to pay the gate prices and the only way I could get a kop ticket was to sell Development tickets. I wasn’t the only one doing it so that we could watch our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, sonofbert2 said: Movies are movies, they never change from one performance to the next. Football is theatre where you have a loyalty to one side as the drama unfolds. There is no movie in the world that could have sprung that ref on Saturdsy and created the feeling and aftermath from a live, involved audience actually playing a role in the drama. No comparison. There is a comparison though as it's an alternative form of entertainment Same as Xbox, PS4, home cinema, eating out, dinner parties and everything else that competes now with matches The emotional attachment to the football comes from repeated visits If fans aren't able to connect with their clubs on a longer term basis then they'll choose the alternatives if they're priced out Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Not just that though Some fans or families can only afford the odd game so will choose the big ones and not the ones deemed that bad that the prices get reduced for them Don't get me wrong, I totally get it. I'd hate to be in that position. 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: If they had made a similar offer for the Villa game...full house.....no doubt in my mind.. The cup...??....Football clubs have devalued it for years...it filters down to the fans.... There might have been another 5k there but not a chance it would be full. That price was squarely aimed at the large travelling Villa contingent. We know how many season ticket holders we have and that even at £10 a ticket we might only add 5-6k to the gate. By making it £39 for Villa the overall revenue is massive. 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: True that Football clubs play the reserves in the cup so the perception is that the cups are worthless and not valued therefore the fans value it less too Because get what, customers don't like being short changed. They want value for money. But still demand not to be treat like consumers. Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, cactus said: Its not though, during the late 70’s I couldn’t afford to pay the gate prices and the only way I could get a kop ticket was to sell Development tickets. I wasn’t the only one doing it so that we could watch our team. Yeah fair point but I'd suggest that it's way way worse now You only have to look at the % price rise in how expensive football is vs the average wage minus the increased living expenses Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I watch films over and see something different or new every time. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, Costello 77 said: I watch films over and see something different or new every time. FFS. Unless its the Marvel Franchise *disclaimer - not counting the excellent Black Panther in that at all* Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: How does that equate to being able to afford something or not? Ps - did you have to pass a credit check during the application process? Yes but my credit rating is very poor, my repayments were around the cost of 3 1/2 games a month for 10 months then free for next 2 years, are you expecting people to not have to pay at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said: £42 for match Or Shopping for family Only 1 winner on that 28,000 there on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: I watch films over and see something different or new every time. FFS. The result is always the same though... 1 Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, g-owls said: Here we go... It's Bingo time. "Go watch someone else" Guess what? Some people can't commit to a season ticket as they might work shifts etc, most people don't want to watch another team and some people certainly aren't prepared to sit on their hands and accept getting shafted. As for the cup games you've mentioned. I went to them all, some people didn't because a season ticket might just be their limit. £42 they wanted for a POTG fan against Villa in the North Stand on Saturday. Yet we’ve our best gates in years, and I’m not getting at the season ticket holders with the cup games I’m pointing towards the moaners who claim they don’t come because of the prices, I also went to all 4 b cause they were cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, TINKERBELL said: Think you missed the point What was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: For those saying that reducing the prices doesn't' guarantee bigger attendances I'd put it to them that if we charged £42 on the North Stand for the earlier rounds of the FA Cup then we'd not have got anywhere near the attendance we did for them. But if we'd charged £39 the difference would have been negligible. It's about pricing brackets. £1 would have seen 25,000, £25 maybe 10,000 Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Of course they can't. They have to price their product in such a way as to appeal to enough fans that they sell the maximum they can without selling themselves short. It's a fine balance because if they over price it people won't pay and won't come back. But under price it and they fall short on FFP. Why? Why are MK Dons any different to us? Other than I have 0 feeling for them and love Wednesday? Do you think Sheffield Wednesday would give 1 single f*ck if I didn't turn up next week, or the week after? The sentiment is one way. You don't seem to be able to separate passion and emotions from facts about business. When our mate was still alive, He wasn't able to go for medical reasons, After he'd missed nearly half a season,, someone from the club rang him and asked if there was a problem. He explained his situation and said he wouldn't be renewing for the next season. They said no they would keep his seat for him until he was in a position to renew, Which they did, That I know for a fact because no one was sat next to me for 2 seasons. So yes, I would say they give a f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) I go to watch Wednesday because I want to.. because I can . I love the drive home after victory .. Im the world champion on Monday morning dodging the flack ..... I'm a humble Wednesdayite .. My Dad and Grandads made me that way ... I don't want any Medals for this They got them for a more deserving cause ....... I love them just like I love The Wednesday ..... Edited February 26, 2018 by OWLERTON GHOST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Sham67 said: When our mate was still alive, He wasn't able to go for medical reasons, After he'd missed nearly half a season,, someone from the club rang him and asked if there was a problem. He explained his situation and said he wouldn't be renewing for the next season. They said no they would keep his seat for him until he was in a position to renew, Which they did, That I know for a fact because no one was sat next to me for 2 seasons. So yes, I would say they give a f*ck. What season was that mate? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Sham67 said: When our mate was still alive, He wasn't able to go for medical reasons, After he'd missed nearly half a season,, someone from the club rang him and asked if there was a problem. He explained his situation and said he wouldn't be renewing for the next season. They said no they would keep his seat for him until he was in a position to renew, Which they did, That I know for a fact because no one was sat next to me for 2 seasons. So yes, I would say they give a f*ck. You're right, I was being glib. The lady who died in front of me and had renewed for next season, her son was offered a refund on her ticket. She had stated that she wanted the money to go to the club so the seat remained unsold for the year. But you know the point I was making. They aren't the only business who care about their customers. Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, TINKERBELL said: That's maybe attendance could have been bigger. But potg had to decide match or shopping for week Maybe some potg can do both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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