wattagit Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 The injuries are real and with so many 1st choice players out even the big boys wouldn't cope SWFC Man City Man Utd Liverpool Westwood Ederson De Gea Mignolet Hunt Walker Valencia Clyne Lees Kompany Bailey Virgil Loovens Otamendi Jones Matip Bannan Kev DB Pogba Henderson Lee Silva Matic Lalana Hutchinson Fernandinho Herrara can hooper Aguero Sanches Salah Fletcher Jesus Lukaku Mane Abdi Sterling Martial Firmino van aken stones smalling Lovren not for one minute saying our players are of the same quality but in terms of importance to us and there respective teams they are but i guarantee that none of them 3 clubs would be anywhere near the top 4 if they had those players out for the length of time ours have been missing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Without the injuries Carlos would still be with us !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Without the injuries Carlos would still be with us !! But for Carlos and his regime we probably wouldn't have so many! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 we certainly cant that's for sure ....I think the sides we've been turning out since jos arrived have done all that can be expected of them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, wattagit said: The injuries are real and with so many 1st choice players out even the big boys wouldn't cope SWFC Man City Man Utd Liverpool Westwood Ederson De Gea Mignolet Hunt Walker Valencia Clyne Lees Kompany Bailey Virgil Loovens Otamendi Jones Matip Bannan Kev DB Pogba Henderson Lee Silva Matic Lalana Hutchinson Fernandinho Herrara can hooper Aguero Sanches Salah Fletcher Jesus Lukaku Mane Abdi Sterling Martial Firmino van aken stones smalling Lovren not for one minute saying our players are of the same quality but in terms of importance to us and there respective teams they are but i guarantee that none of them 3 clubs would be anywhere near the top 4 if they had those players out for the length of time ours have been missing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattagit Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Add to that we also have Forestieri missing christ its been that long since weve seen him i forgot to include him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e6owl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Carlos and DC did always say they wanted 2 players for every position and that's now paying off - we have a set of decent lower half of the championship players to fall back on. The only problem is Carlos never gave any of these players time on the pitch and they've been thrown in at the deep end - totally unprepared for what's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I think many people are forgetting what a good first team we have. It’s been that long since we actually could field it. It definitely puts to bed some of the exuberant optimism we had a year or two ago when we were thinking our reserves would easily be a top half championship team. And also the bloated squad, turns out we’ve needed everyone. Just got to ride the season out and get a few back and up to speed and hungry for a crack at it next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Dupowls Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Yes and You’ve missed out the main man, Forrestieri. BUT The mess we are in now is ALSO the result of poor recruitment, every other team has pace in reserve but not us, we have slow second rate or aged crocks. We’re all trying to judge If Jos is any good but the hand he has been dealt is a stinker. His first recruit isn’t performing though which doesn’t help matters - Hope he comes good quickly. Anyone due back in the next week or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nilsson Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Why don’t we replace the medical team ASAP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Spot on OP. Still think we will have enough to stay up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Stan Dupowls said: Yes and You’ve missed out the main man, Forrestieri. BUT The mess we are in now is ALSO the result of poor recruitment, every other team has pace in reserve but not us, we have slow second rate or aged crocks. We’re all trying to judge If Jos is any good but the hand he has been dealt is a stinker. His first recruit isn’t performing though which doesn’t help matters - Hope he comes good quickly. Anyone due back in the next week or so? It was always going to be a tough ask for Pelupessy to come in and hit the ground running given the environment he’s come from to the one he’s come to. I think we’re more likely to see whether he and Van Aken are actually up to it next season at the earliest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, wattagit said: The injuries are real and with so many 1st choice players out even the big boys wouldn't cope SWFC Man City Man Utd Liverpool Westwood Ederson De Gea Mignolet Hunt Walker Valencia Clyne Lees Kompany Bailey Virgil Loovens Otamendi Jones Matip Bannan Kev DB Pogba Henderson Lee Silva Matic Lalana Hutchinson Fernandinho Herrara can hooper Aguero Sanches Salah Fletcher Jesus Lukaku Mane Abdi Sterling Martial Firmino van aken stones smalling Lovren not for one minute saying our players are of the same quality but in terms of importance to us and there respective teams they are but i guarantee that none of them 3 clubs would be anywhere near the top 4 if they had those players out for the length of time ours have been missing totally agree, difference is they dont have that problem, something is wrong with our medical/rehab syetem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattagit Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Think part of the issue is under Carlos that instead of a player carrying a slight injury that maybe needed just a couple of weeks rest to recover from he played them and caused the longer term injury by doing so Lee Lees Bannan spring to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, torryowl said: we certainly cant that's for sure ....I think the sides we've been turning out since jos arrived have done all that can be expected of them . And it is proof, if any proof were needed, that so called "squad players" are there to backfill a maximum of two or three roles in the first team. They are not there to provide 100%+ cover when all of the first team is unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Musn't Grumble said: And it is proof, if any proof were needed, that so called "squad players" are there to backfill a maximum of two or three roles in the first team. They are not there to provide 100%+ cover when all of the first team is unavailable. spot on ...I think there all decent players who can do a job when drafted into the team but to play them en masse and expect them to do well is a forlorn hope . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, wattagit said: The injuries are real and with so many 1st choice players out even the big boys wouldn't cope SWFC Man City Man Utd Liverpool Westwood Ederson De Gea Mignolet Hunt Walker Valencia Clyne Lees Kompany Bailey Virgil Loovens Otamendi Jones Matip Bannan Kev DB Pogba Henderson Lee Silva Matic Lalana Hutchinson Fernandinho Herrara can hooper Aguero Sanches Salah Fletcher Jesus Lukaku Mane Abdi Sterling Martial Firmino van aken stones smalling Lovren not for one minute saying our players are of the same quality but in terms of importance to us and there respective teams they are but i guarantee that none of them 3 clubs would be anywhere near the top 4 if they had those players out for the length of time ours have been missing Agreed its common sense the issue is not how a team would deal with it The question being asked is what has caused it Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, lanzaroteowl said: But for Carlos and his regime we probably wouldn't have so many! Sorry don’t agree with that, he proved last season we weren’t good enough even when the better players were available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, e6owl said: Carlos and DC did always say they wanted 2 players for every position and that's now paying off - we have a set of decent lower half of the championship players to fall back on. The only problem is Carlos never gave any of these players time on the pitch and they've been thrown in at the deep end - totally unprepared for what's coming. We should always p!at our best team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest everydays_wednesday Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Without the injuries Carlos would still be with us !! TBF.....didnt most of that list play in the fiasco against pigs at Hillsborough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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