TomtheOwl95 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, toppOwl said: How do you know this? Because that's what sources were saying at the time. They had a meeting and Chansiri laid out the plans for the transfer policy for 2015/16 and Gray didn't like what was being said but didn't want to resign (who would) so Chansiri sacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, TomtheOwl95 said: Because that's what sources were saying at the time. They had a meeting and Chansiri laid out the plans for the transfer policy for 2015/16 and Gray didn't like what was being said but didn't want to resign (who would) so Chansiri sacked him. Could quite easily be bullshyte then yes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said: Could quite easily be bullshyte then yes ? Which bit is troubling you? Seems fairly logical to me and was discussed at length on here when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, TomtheOwl95 said: Because that's what sources were saying at the time. They had a meeting and Chansiri laid out the plans for the transfer policy for 2015/16 and Gray didn't like what was being said but didn't want to resign (who would) so Chansiri sacked him. Sources, saucers or sauces - no evidence of this whatsoever, pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, TomtheOwl95 said: Which bit is troubling you? Seems fairly logical to me and was discussed at length on here when it happened. I'm not troubled,just think that when "fans" post stuff as fact and are then asked how they/you know,theres always some vague response,a bit like your "thats what sources were saying at the time" gubbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said: I'm not troubled,just think that when "fans" post stuff as fact and are then asked how they/you know,theres always some vague response,a bit like your "thats what sources were saying at the time" gubbins. When did I say it was from fans? I said it was discussed on here because of what was being spoken about in the media. We know there was a meeting because the club told us there was. I have no reason to not believe this. The idea that Chansiri sacked Gray for the on the pitch performances is nonsense. If he was planning to sack him all along why did he wait until June? Why not do it the Monday after the Watford game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just feels like apples and oranges to me, very hard to compare given the different contexts. I still maintain that Gray was hard done by, the bloke did his best and achieved solid results with a limited squad playing on a pitch that resembled Blackpool pleasure beach for going on 6 months. But Carlos is working with a totally different squad, I don't know how much there was to suggest either way about Gray's ability to get us playing the sort of football Carlos did, or manage some very big dressing room egos in the way Carlos has. People are keen to bash him but they ought to catch a breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, TomtheOwl95 said: When did I say it was from fans? I said it was discussed on here because of what was being spoken about in the media. We know there was a meeting because the club told us there was. I have no reason to not believe this. The idea that Chansiri sacked Gray for the on the pitch performances is nonsense. If he was planning to sack him all along why did he wait until June? Why not do it the Monday after the Watford game? You make hard work of very little.......... 10 minutes ago, TomtheOwl95 said: Because that's what sources were saying at the time. They had a meeting and Chansiri laid out the plans for the transfer policy for 2015/16 and Gray didn't like what was being said but didn't want to resign (who would) so Chansiri sacked him. You being a "fan" posted the above,so when i said "when fans post stuff as fact" i was qouting you the "fan".....................not that hard to understand fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 7 hours ago, RocketOwl said: Silly post. Stuart Gray 13th Carlos playoff final in first season. Playoffs second season. Finished higher in 2nd season too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Blue and white said: Carlos is still using half of his team despite spending 30m+ on his own players. Absolute joke springs to mind. Which days it all really regarding the joke that is Carlos and Doyen. The football was a means to an end under Gray, what’s Carlos’ excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Geoffrey said: after finishing 13th in the Championship with little investment. Looking at many performances over the past two years; playing better football as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 hours ago, toppOwl said: People who start ridiculous threads like this tend to gloss over that fact, if SG was a capable manager he'd be one now and not a coach. CC is only a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Miffed said: Thank you. Owls fans have short memories and certainly suffer from the ‘Heffernan effect’ The football was dire under Grey. Playing one up front at home very often (something which Dave Jones was crucified for on here) going on long winless runs. Sometimes I think folk should get what they deserve. If if you accept mediocrity then you should expect mediocrity Mediocraty? We were the quintessential yo yo relegation club. Have you forgotten our seasons in league 1? Not only did Gray save us from Jones’ engineered relegation, he was one of the few managers who actually improved us in his second season, achieving consolidation with a net spend of near zero. Outputs v inputs. It’s no coincidence that our better players were here before Carlos arrived. Im not saying Gray was Mourinio, but we weren’t exactly top 6 material at the time either though, were we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Ronseal said: Stupot and brian laws did a better job than cc...not to mention gm Stop getting carried away with the bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 If CC (or whoever decides transfers) was as good as Gray was in signing players we would be promoted by now. Stevie May was a flop but 75% of incoming transfers were a success. Since the takeover been more like 25% success rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 10 hours ago, davey said: Get a grip! Stuart gray did a job bless him!! Cc has took us far more places than gray could have dreamed of! According to Megson and Lawrie Madden we finished on a par with our wage budget the last 2 seasons. At the moment we are massively under-achieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Thewaynesday said: Get to lane you obvious blunt I'm in my 6th decade of going to Hillsborough. Go and jump off the pier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 thought he did a good job considering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 11 hours ago, striker said: 3 places higher than Carlos, glad the near £30m investment was worthwhile Wednesday finished 4th, unless my memory has gone. Find us another manager who can lead us to 4th with the squad we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Shutt is God Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Ronseal said: Stupot and brian laws did a better job than cc...not to mention gm I don't get why people post stuff like this. How did they do a better job? Gray did ok to keep us mid table but it was horrendous to watch and 13th wasn't that spectacular really, I'm sure plenty of managers would have got us in the same position. Laws did well considering the situation at the club but he also had some decent players some of which went on to have good premier league careers after they left us. Megson steadied the ship and pointed us back in the right direction but when he was sacked the much lamented Dave Jones got his side playing good football and winning most of his games. Carlos has got us in the play offs twice in his two full seasons and whilst he has had the benefit of investment when you compare it to other teams and the fees being played in this league it's not the huge amount some of our fans want to make out. Personally I think Carlos's time is up, I don't see him turning it around and its only a matter of time before he is gone now. Seems to me though that some of our old managers have become much better in some fans eyes just because we are so poor this season. Its just like how mcgugan became a better player the more he didn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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