beloved_aunt Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 One of the worst things about Dave Jones, was the fact that whatever the problem - a striker not scoring, a midfielder having a bad game (even if it was the manager's fault for leaving him over-run), a defender getting injured - his solution was always to just go out and buy another player. And preferably one who had played for him before. Gray has a totally different attitude and wants to work with players and make them better. Even better, he doesn't just judge players by their pay packet or reputation but has a proper football brain, see their attributes and works out how to get the best out of them. If you look at several players in the team, Gray has identified where their stregths lay and even changed the position to get the best out of these: Huthchinson had always been a right back or centre half until we signed him, SG saw that he wasn't the tallest but was a tenacious tackler with bags of energy so put him as the ball winner in centre mid, and look what a revelation he's been Lee was signed as right back and played wide mid by Jones, but SG saw how good he was on the ball so moved him into centre mid, saving us a fortune if we'd signed someone else to pay that position Maguire had always played front, but SG decided his good technical ability was better utilised out wide creating chances for others, and where his lack of physicality wouldn't be so much of a problem Palmer is not an out-and-out proper full back under SG's tutelage (apparently he spent week individually teaching him how to head the ball over the summer) What a difference it makes to have a manager who is a proper coach, works with the players everyday and therefore understands them inside out, rather than one who just wants to rock up to the training ground on Friday to pick the team and spends the rest of the week with netballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernblues Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Agree totally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenitoCarbone Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Imagine Bothroyd with Gray in charge ;-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simaniac Owl Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Imagine Bothroyd with Gray in charge ;-p SG: bye bye Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Agree mainly but I think jones used lee in the middle away at hull and maguire had been played out wide a few times. They seem to like him more though and want to work for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Spoke to Antonio about 3 weeks ago who was stressing how much the players like Gray and how good he is as a coach...great feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 One of the worst things about Dave Jones, was the fact that whatever the problem - a striker not scoring, a midfielder having a bad game (even if it was the manager's fault for leaving him over-run), a defender getting injured - his solution was always to just go out and buy another player. And preferably one who had played for him before. Gray has a totally different attitude and wants to work with players and make them better. Even better, he doesn't just judge players by their pay packet or reputation but has a proper football brain, see their attributes and works out how to get the best out of them. If you look at several players in the team, Gray has identified where their stregths lay and even changed the position to get the best out of these: Huthchinson had always been a right back or centre half until we signed him, SG saw that he wasn't the tallest but was a tenacious tackler with bags of energy so put him as the ball winner in centre mid, and look what a revelation he's been Lee was signed as right back and played wide mid by Jones, but SG saw how good he was on the ball so moved him into centre mid, saving us a fortune if we'd signed someone else to pay that position Maguire had always played front, but SG decided his good technical ability was better utilised out wide creating chances for others, and where his lack of physicality wouldn't be so much of a problem Palmer is not an out-and-out proper full back under SG's tutelage (apparently he spent week individually teaching him how to head the ball over the summer) What a difference it makes to have a manager who is a proper coach, works with the players everyday and therefore understands them inside out, rather than one who just wants to rock up to the training ground on Friday to pick the team and spends the rest of the week with netballers. I was going to start a thread very similar about SG seemingly carrying on regardless of misfortune and making a fist out of it but you have done it far better than I could - suffice to say I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Every player interviewed after Dave Jones left has praised Stuart Gray. Saying that he has made everyone feel important, brought everyone together and training is very good. Semedo even said Gray is the best coach he has worked with. Stuart Gray has worked wonders considering what's been going off this summer, we need to try and back him with more additions. Whatever he is doing he is getting extra from all the players and that goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I for one have been proved wrong I was expecting the worst when he took over thought we would go back down to league one and struggle their with him still in charge but now look, looks like we have a settled team and a decent core :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 One of the worst things about Dave Jones, was the fact that whatever the problem - a striker not scoring, a midfielder having a bad game (even if it was the manager's fault for leaving him over-run), a defender getting injured - his solution was always to just go out and buy another player. And preferably one who had played for him before. Gray has a totally different attitude and wants to work with players and make them better. Even better, he doesn't just judge players by their pay packet or reputation but has a proper football brain, see their attributes and works out how to get the best out of them. If you look at several players in the team, Gray has identified where their stregths lay and even changed the position to get the best out of these: Huthchinson had always been a right back or centre half until we signed him, SG saw that he wasn't the tallest but was a tenacious tackler with bags of energy so put him as the ball winner in centre mid, and look what a revelation he's been Lee was signed as right back and played wide mid by Jones, but SG saw how good he was on the ball so moved him into centre mid, saving us a fortune if we'd signed someone else to pay that position Maguire had always played front, but SG decided his good technical ability was better utilised out wide creating chances for others, and where his lack of physicality wouldn't be so much of a problem Palmer is not an out-and-out proper full back under SG's tutelage (apparently he spent week individually teaching him how to head the ball over the summer) What a difference it makes to have a manager who is a proper coach, works with the players everyday and therefore understands them inside out, rather than one who just wants to rock up to the training ground on Friday to pick the team and spends the rest of the week with netballers. Good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Just imagine what we could be like if the clowns who ran the activities off the field were half as adequate at their jobs as Gray is his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorny Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Bang on! Trying not to get carried away, but I guarantee Gray will be linked with other jobs by the end of this season. Just hope we can do well enough to keep hold of him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest subnotusedmayrleb Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 One of the worst things about Dave Jones, was the fact that whatever the problem - a striker not scoring, a midfielder having a bad game (even if it was the manager's fault for leaving him over-run), a defender getting injured - his solution was always to just go out and buy another player. And preferably one who had played for him before. Gray has a totally different attitude and wants to work with players and make them better. Even better, he doesn't just judge players by their pay packet or reputation but has a proper football brain, see their attributes and works out how to get the best out of them. If you look at several players in the team, Gray has identified where their stregths lay and even changed the position to get the best out of these: Huthchinson had always been a right back or centre half until we signed him, SG saw that he wasn't the tallest but was a tenacious tackler with bags of energy so put him as the ball winner in centre mid, and look what a revelation he's been Lee was signed as right back and played wide mid by Jones, but SG saw how good he was on the ball so moved him into centre mid, saving us a fortune if we'd signed someone else to pay that position Maguire had always played front, but SG decided his good technical ability was better utilised out wide creating chances for others, and where his lack of physicality wouldn't be so much of a problem Palmer is not an out-and-out proper full back under SG's tutelage (apparently he spent week individually teaching him how to head the ball over the summer) What a difference it makes to have a manager who is a proper coach, works with the players everyday and therefore understands them inside out, rather than one who just wants to rock up to the training ground on Friday to pick the team and spends the rest of the week with netballers. A well put post. Gray certainly makes a lot from a little. He has done an awful lot better than a vast number of his predecessors considering his meagre means, and playing a brand of football with a high number of shots towards the opponents goal and a tightening defence at the other end. It's too easy to get carried away with the progress and think of it as more than it is, but I do feel we have a more solid foundation to build on than we have for many a year...and Gray is very important to this continued improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Well seen as greys getting the best out I players I reckon Leicester should loan us Wood for free and they'll get back a much better player. Look at what happened with Mr Wickham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 for me the telling thing is whichever A.N.Other fantasy manager had jetted in when DJ was removed, and they had achieved what SG has so far, they would have been lauded the managerial messiah. We all know it can go pear shaped for him and us yet -but I said at the time SG was MM's wet dream: cheap good and in situ I think I was right for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) I don't know if he still does this (because I always rock up at S6 at 2.50 pm and I didn't go to Brighton) but I loved last season how he was out with the players doing the drills and runs an hour before kick off. He's a proper football man and a totally honest and fair man and this is showing in how the players have responded to him. The videos from Slovenia also illustrate what great spirit there is in the camp and that, in addition to the very good starting 11, will hopefully take us a long, long way this season. I genuinely think we are two or three players off doing a Burnley (sadly those players are in the final third which cost the earth, so it's unlikely). In Stuart I trust. Edited August 17, 2014 by Hirstys Salopettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Horse Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't know if he still does this (because I always rock up at S6 at 2.50 pm and I didn't go to Brighton) but I loved last season how he was out with the players doing the drills and runs an hour before kick off. I was going to say the same. It's great to see. Was at it again yesterday. Can you imagine DJ doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 With footballers no, with netballers ... Different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Perhaps it is the right time to have a head coach, as opposed to a manager in the traditional sense. Maybe modern players prefer people who are on the training pitch most of the time, as opposed to someone who's there, allegedly, two days a week and then picks the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Totally agree with the OP. I'd be surprised if DJ works again at L1 let alone Championship level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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