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He's not and I haven't fed him it's all about opinions on a forum pal. :rolleyes:

well if you're too daft to see it, he makes 2 points (in the 2nd he actually admits it), 2 points to rile up Sheffielders! they were completely irrelevant to the topic and nobody had cast an opinion, i don't care how many posts hes got, in any book thats trolling!

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I lived In Sheffield finest suburb for 1 year...Burngreave...and I survived... :biggrin:

Thinking about It I've lived In some reyt holes ....

01. Scotland hole rating 10/10 prehistoric

02 Maltby 12/10 backwards place

03 Rawmarsh 2/10 like Rawmarsh, nice people, great pubs

04 Swinton 8/10 dump

05 Wath 5/10 not too bad

06 Burngreave 9/10 I didn't own a shotgun so didn't fit In

07 Killamarsh 7/10 weird place,

08 Upton 7/10 was like being on the league of gentlemen set

09 South Kirkby As above

10 Normanton (Wakefield) 5/10 nice chippies and plenty of sluts :biggrin:

11 Outwood 4/10 was okay, close to Wakey and Leeds for great nightlife

12 Conisbrough 9/10 Just a bigger version of denaby

13 Denaby 20/10 The mecca of chavdom, the bowels of the earth, my lowest yet, nice neighbours though.. :biggrin:

Nowt up wi Rawmarsh mate.

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Everyone knows Sheffield City Centre has problems, take the City Centre out of it because everyone knows Leeds is more improved, but as a whole City I find it more of a dump then Sheffield, I find it worse for traffic and that says something because Sheffield is bad! 

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am i right in thinking we had a population of over 600k 10 or so years ago?  and its now 100 less?  Moved away in 99 and always thought it was 600 odd.

 

I kind of agree on Stevegers comparisons.  The great things sheffield had dont last, don valley, the airport, the city centre.

 

Honestly if i was to take someone to shwo em the 'sights' of sheffield id be lost were to go.  City centre is a bit '28 days later' especially after 6pm unless you go up West st.

 

I think we are a Leicester/Hull equivalent, im biased i still miss the place cos im from there but Leeds sadly is seen as more 'forward'.

I hope the TDF brings in some investment but not sure it will make a huge difference.

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Everyone knows Sheffield City Centre has problems, take the City Centre out of it because everyone knows Leeds is more improved, but as a whole City I find it more of a dump then Sheffield, I find it worse for traffic and that says something because Sheffield is bad! 

 

Load of rubbish.

 

In terms areas outside the town centre, Sheff and Leeds both have good and bad areas. Every city does.

 

BUT

 

Headingley

Chapel Allerton

Horsforth

 

Are  areas out of "town" that are nice areas with plenty of Bars / Restaurants / Local Amenities.

 

Sheffield has no equivalent, apart from maybe Ecclesall Road, which still isnt a patch on Headingley, unfortunately.

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Sheffield is run by a set of dogmatic inward thinking politicians that seem to be constrained by their 1950's socialist agenda and opposition to the Chamber of Commerce. Leeds City Council, run by members of the very same political party, have formed a strong partnership with the chamber of commerce and have an outward 'international' philosophy. They are very competitive and obviously lobby and engage the local and national media in terms of promotion of their city.

It took 10 years for IKEA to be allowed into Sheffield in the same period of time, Leeds have become an international city and, arguably, the northern hub for business and commerce. Leeds look to the future. Sheffield council are still fvcckking around trying to revive the city centre with hair brained schemes rather than embracing Meadowhall as the retail quarter. Sheffield is still known for hating Margaret Thatcher - a politician that left office in 1990.

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Guest ScunnyOwl1992

Your not making any friends with manners like yours, call me a troll all you want, I couldn't care less what pish you type with your finger tips, but now your calling posters daft. Have some manners FFS! :biggrin:

now now troll, dont get angry, great attempt at winding all those people up in various villages but its only worked on one person, go back to your hole

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I've lived in Sheffield all my life and came to the conclusion a while ago that's it's rubbish.

We're demolishing any sporting legacy we had after the Olympics

We can't manage to generate a successful retail quarter in the city centre

Our road network is a complete joke and is one breakdown off complete gridlock

We have 'no go' areas after dark that are complete slums

It's no wonder resident sheffielders are so annoyed with things like the TDF while the rest of the country embraces it

We've been let down so often by Sheffield council we've lost all trust in them to deliver anything.

Even our football clubs are rubbish.

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Lived in :-

Sheffield (Firth Park)

Biddenden (Kent)

Sandwich (Kent)

Staple (Nr Sandwich)

Wellington (Somerset)

St. Ives (Kernow)

Micklethwaite (Next to Ilkley Moor)

Kalymnos (Greek Islands)

Near Newton Abbott (Devon)

Buckfastliegh (Devon)

Coombeinteignhead (Devon)

Ambialet (Tarn Valley, SW France)

Nr. Shaftesbury (Wilts/dorset border)

Nr Frome (North Somerset)

Hope-under-Dinmoor (Herefordshire)

and now Near Ashbourne (Staffs/Derbyshire border)

 

 

From my perspective...Don't give a damn about which city is bigger than which....bit of a schoolboy argumant at the best of times. It used to be said that Sheffield had more "green belt" area than any other industrial city in Europe but that doesn't change the fact that every time I visit Sheffield (and I now often come in via Totley or Rivelin valley), I never fail to think what a grim,grey, grubby almost desolate place much of it is.....though I still love the veiw of HQ when coming down Herries Road!

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London isn't bigger, its the smallest capital city in Europe, approx 1sq mile, most of "London" is made up of other Cities and towns

 

as per your Man U thing, well the Houses of Parliament aren't even in London

The square mile isn't the city of London, it is their financial district, I have actually worked there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds  If you compare Sheffield like for like with Leeds, Sheffield is about 560K, Leeds would be lucky to hit half a million.  The Leeds you now see is the Metropolitan borough, which they added 250K to, from other out lying places.  If you want to play at this game, add all the population from Sheffield city centre to Worksop in a radius.  The Leeds you now see it totally fictitious, created in the 1970's by the central government, nothing to do with population growth.

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Guest Grez Bez

The borders of the city are irrelevant though. The wider population is what attracts business, makes developers want to build etc

Its numbers game.

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The borders of the city are irrelevant though. The wider population is what attracts business, makes developers want to build etc

Its numbers game.

6 million people withing a 40 minute drive of Meadowhall.  I think Sheffield has far bigger pulling power on top of it being bigger than Leeds.  

 

“ Leeds is much more a generalised concept place name in inverted commas, it is the city, but it is also the commuter villages and the region as well. ”

—A History of Modern Leeds, Brian Thompson[50]

 

Sheffield has been badly run and branded by the City council since the 1970's, like the football teams.  People need to wake up and stop voting for a Labour council that kills trade in the city.

 

There seems to be a lot of little Sheffieldiers on here, who think the grass is greener else where.

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Around 2003 I actually thought Sheffield was vastly improving. We had a city centre master plan that looked great including St Pauls, Moor redevelopment, NRQ, West Bar master plan and the station.

Fast forward 11 years St Pauls is still not finished, NRQ scrapped / on hold, West Bar scrapped, Moor only just started but with a much toned down version, station square complete but no sign of building on the old Dyson House site.

Alright the recession contributed massively to this but it's clearly not the sole reason and other cities have coped well - Trinity Leeds and Liverpool One spring to mind.

We've managed to

Close the airport permanently

Demolish Don Valley

Close the ski village

Oppose Ikea

Council spending thousands opposing the new Next for fear of city centre impacts.

Demolish a fire station for a project that will probably never happen

But it doesn't matter because Sheffield folk have a good sense of humour and the city centre still has a village feel

Anyway flags...

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In Leeds last night they claimed to be sorry 4 th biggest. And called Sheffield a steel town not even a City lol

Typical sheetbag sly Leeds dig at us, they know the epithet "steel town" won't have gone unnoticed down here. Same as when War of the Monster Trucks was shown on YTV after our League Cup win in 1991. For that reason I never watch Calendar or Look Leeds.

Best thing we can do is keep beating their scabby team 6-0 and laughing as that potty Italian sends that club into meltdown with his non league manager and decision making based on the number 17.

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In the 90's when Leeds and Manchester were modernising themselves we bankrupted ourselves with super tram and student games

What a load of crap

 

In the 90's when Leeds and Manchester were modernising themselves we bankrupted ourselves with super tram and student games

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Sheffield council simply try and make our city into a socialist republic where if anything looks like it will create money and jobs they oppose it because horror of horrors some people might make a packet . Look at the problems in page hall , all city council caused . City of sanctuary simply means dump as many cultures and creeds , some of which historically despise each other all together and if anything bad happens go to their go to excuse of racism . Our council wont be satisfied until every area is a complete toilet because then everyone will be the same , f****d .

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