Barnsleyowl1996 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 hours ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: With the Ipswich game being the last one for almost two weeks, it gives us a good window to give some lads a well deserved rest and to try and get some of the injured lads back. I think we are currently without: Windass Paterson Pedersen Delgado Missing anyone? Any idea on the length of these injuries? Be great to have Windass and Paterson as options again from Easter onwards. Delgado and Pedersen are a bit unknown - Delgado looks solid if unspectacular under Xisco (hopefully, he'll look better under Danny) and Pedersen had a bit of a poor debut, but was some player a couple of seasons ago. I don’t think we’re missing any of them however under Röhl Delgado may be a useful player in some situations. I think windass and pato are bench options but I wouldn’t rely on them to be consistent and have the quality needed . I’d have them on the bench over wilks and another thought . pato is one of those who fills gaps but has minimal quality , works hard but not a game changer . Where does he fit in under Röhl ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umeeksk Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, island owl said: Delgado will play a different position to the one Xisco played him in. Never suited to LW. I'm not sure - playing him as an inverted winger like Gassama might actually work. Not all of Xisco's ideas were terrible - just his execution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, Sefton owl said: Or could just be some luck going our way for a change Or it could be that we're training like we play so the players are fitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternlad Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 hours ago, Ian said: Yes, Paterson and Windass definitely Even if Windass was only a last 20 sub for Poveda And Paterson is one of the best in the air in the Championship Paterson also an excellent shithousery expert…he may be essential when protecting a lead 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBMitchell Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 15 minutes ago, sternlad said: Paterson also an excellent shithousery expert…he may be essential when protecting a lead Mmm the one thing that annoys me is when he gives needless fouls away and that is antishithousery I remember we got a corner this season and yes we are pants on them, but after the defender had knocked it out he clattered them and gave a foul away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 hours ago, Ian said: Yes, Paterson and Windass definitely Even if Windass was only a last 20 sub for Poveda And Paterson is one of the best in the air in the Championship No they arent..were not missing them,they ain't played for ages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 45 minutes ago, Barnsleyowl1996 said: I don’t think we’re missing any of them however under Röhl Delgado may be a useful player in some situations. I think windass and pato are bench options but I wouldn’t rely on them to be consistent and have the quality needed . I’d have them on the bench over wilks and another thought . pato is one of those who fills gaps but has minimal quality , works hard but not a game changer . Where does he fit in under Röhl ? Spot on,weve moved on they are surplus now.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexpistol Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Windass always seems to improve us This. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 5 hours ago, paulrs said: Sounded from the last press conference like Windass, Paterson and Pedersen were all in contention to return after the international break. Windass is a miss because he’s more consistent IMO than Gassama or Musaba. I’d start him ahead of those once he’s fully sharp. Paterson is good cover on the bench and a good RWB option as we saw in some big games last season. Pedersen I can’t see getting much game time even if fit. I’d rather see James, Famewo and Palmer ahead of him. Delgado we don’t know about, but after 6 months out you can’t see him offering much in the remaining games even if fit again Pederson is a much better player than those three. That said he’s had an injury ravaged season and is nowhere near match fit even if he’s back training I can’t see him playing much either. I do think going into next year he could be a asset tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Brando17 said: No they arent..were not missing them,they ain't played for ages You do understand that in order to miss players they have to have not played don’t you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerian Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Windass always seems to improve us Does he? I beg to differ, respectfully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerian Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 12 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Considering that Windass creates more chances per game than anyone other than Bannan, I'd say he could come in handy, yeah. Especially now that we have Ugbo and Poveda providing more options in attack, as well. Replacng who? That only leaves Gasman/Musaba to replace, in the current system. Unless we go 5-2-1-2 with Windass at a 10, I just dont see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, steelerian said: Replacng who? That only leaves Gasman/Musaba to replace, in the current system. Unless we go 5-2-1-2 with Windass at a 10, I just dont see how it works. We’ve been sharing the two wide positions very successfully between Poveda, Gassama and Musaba. My best guess is that Windass will make it two from four. As I’ve posted earlier in the thread, Windass fighting for a starting slot in our current line-up can only be beneficial. But he’s going to find it much harder to win a shirt, and even harder to keep it, which is a great thing for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, steelerian said: Replacng who? That only leaves Gasman/Musaba to replace, in the current system. Unless we go 5-2-1-2 with Windass at a 10, I just dont see how it works. That's up to Röhl, I suppose. He seems to rate Windass, so I'm sure he'll make use of him again once he's fit. He was playing well as a number ten before he got injured. Perhaps we might use a similar setup again at times? Or he could be used on the opposite flank to Poveda at times. Imagine having those two cutting in, roaming into space and dragging the opposition defence all over the place. Could be great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 17 hours ago, steelerian said: Are we really missing any of those 4? Really? Agreed, not right now we aren't, but games are coming thick and fast in April and we'll need extra bodies to get through it. As Ian says below, even having these options to give other key players a bit of a break/time to recover. 17 hours ago, Ian said: Yes, Paterson and Windass definitely Even if Windass was only a last 20 sub for Poveda And Paterson is one of the best in the air in the Championship Exactly. Tired defenders won't be rubbing their hands together seeing Poveda go off and Windass to come on for the last 20-25mins. We all know Windass has that bit of magic to win a game, a fresh Windass off the bench could earn us some vital points in the run in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 13 hours ago, Barnsleyowl1996 said: I don’t think we’re missing any of them however under Röhl Delgado may be a useful player in some situations. I think windass and pato are bench options but I wouldn’t rely on them to be consistent and have the quality needed . I’d have them on the bench over wilks and another thought . pato is one of those who fills gaps but has minimal quality , works hard but not a game changer . Where does he fit in under Röhl ? Even if this is all they are for the run-in, what a difference it could make. Windass coming on fresh after Poveda/Musaba/Gassama have run the defence all over for 70mins. Paterson being able to come on and do a job anywhere and work his nuts off. Having a stronger bench than we have now could be the difference between dropping and staying up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 17 hours ago, slinger208b said: I thnk DR said JW is training... 17 hours ago, paulrs said: Sounded from the last press conference like Windass, Paterson and Pedersen were all in contention to return after the international break. Windass is a miss because he’s more consistent IMO than Gassama or Musaba. I’d start him ahead of those once he’s fully sharp. Paterson is good cover on the bench and a good RWB option as we saw in some big games last season. Pedersen I can’t see getting much game time even if fit. I’d rather see James, Famewo and Palmer ahead of him. Delgado we don’t know about, but after 6 months out you can’t see him offering much in the remaining games even if fit again Thanks - haven't caught up with the last couple of press conferences yet. Great news - fingers crossed we get through Ipswich with a clean bill of health and do get these guys back in contention to kick off the Easter/April schedule as it looks a bit of a slog; 5 games in 14 days I think before we return back to a game a week for the final 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkstone Owl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 17 hours ago, helmut_rooster said: Best in the air at what? Fishing? Drinking 20/20, surely? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebizzle Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 19 hours ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Delgado and Pedersen are a bit unknown - Delgado looks solid if unspectacular under Xisco ( I'd be surprised if Delgado plays another minute for the club. Been in a bit of trouble in his home nation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 minutes ago, thebizzle said: I'd be surprised if Delgado plays another minute for the club. Been in a bit of trouble in his home nation. Sigh. Cheers for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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