BIG D Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 We’re watching an all-time great here. Still only 23, how much is he worth right now? He's just made an absolute nonsense of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 State sanctioned perfection 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 A superb player and an elite goal scorer. He would have won the Ballon d'Or had Argentina not won the World Cup. KDB will be back soon, he makes him even better. Whilst he will not win international football awards, he will clear the decks in world club football. How much is he worth in the football market? Two Mbappes and a Barry Bannan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 People moan about the fact he "only" scores goals. I think most sane people will forego his supposed shortcomings for the fact he's a guaranteed 40 to 50 goals a season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Some of the best strikers only scored goals. Lineker, Cole and Vardy spring to mind. Its a gift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 48 games to get 50 goals? I don't think that will ever be beaten. That's insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He's brilliant and has the perfect backing , He plays for the best team in the world, he has the best manager in the world mentoring him and he has a family 100% behind him who understand the life he now leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOWL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He'd get in the Wednesday side maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeyswfc Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The Ballon d’Or will show why it’s a pointless trophy during his career. Hell win it at all club level and he’ll score the most goals, but because Norway won’t ever achieve anything he’ll never win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alb1owl Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I wonder if there is a greater gulf between the best team and the rest these days. Man Utd used to win the league with low 80s, whereas now you need 95 or so just to finish 2nd. City have battered basically all teams not in the top 4, so whilst he’s a sensational player you can’t help think that any of the other classic #9s on that list would have a similar record. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Alb1owl said: I wonder if there is a greater gulf between the best team and the rest these days. Man Utd used to win the league with low 80s, whereas now you need 95 or so just to finish 2nd. City have battered basically all teams not in the top 4, so whilst he’s a sensational player you can’t help think that any of the other classic #9s on that list would have a similar record. Not sure. Perhaps it was a more even league back in the day. We would often do pretty well against the likes of United and Arsenal at Hillsborough, whilst nowadays most of teams in the PL are cannon fodder for the top sides. Have the top teams got better, whilst the rest of the division isn't all that? Possibly. Think the level of spending in the PL often masks the fact that two thirds of the division range from mediocre to absolute crap. Still - I think elite players like Haaland play at elite clubs for a reason, whilst very good strikers back in the day (let's say Les Ferdinand) played at clubs a notch or two below that. If Haaland's job was so easy, then logically you could put any half decent striker in there and he would bag 40 or so goals a season. I don't think that would be the case though. It's a bit like anyone could manage Man City to the title. You could put Big Sam in charge and he'd replicate what Pep has done. He wouldn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think although the scoring record is amazing, we do seem to be in an era that strikers can get a goal a game, it started with Messi and Ronaldo, then Lewandowski+Suarez started at it, now we've got Haaland and Kane doing it, for me it seems to be 1) More protection for strikers 2) An increase in the gulf in quality from the top teams to the lesser teams in their respective leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I think although the scoring record is amazing, we do seem to be in an era that strikers can get a goal a game, it started with Messi and Ronaldo, then Lewandowski+Suarez started at it, now we've got Haaland and Kane doing it, for me it seems to be 1) More protection for strikers 2) An increase in the gulf in quality from the top teams to the lesser teams in their respective leagues Not just out and out strikers too, even wide forwards (Salah) are hitting goal scoring rates which are better than 1 in 2. Honestly, I'd say if you are banging in 15 to 20 goals a season in a league, you're having a pretty damn good season, but now you have guys consistently posting high 20s, and low to mid-30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Not just out and out strikers too, even wide forwards (Salah) are hitting goal scoring rates which are better than 1 in 2. Honestly, I'd say if you are banging in 15 to 20 goals a season in a league, you're having a pretty damn good season, but now you have guys consistently posting high 20s, and low to mid-30s. Exactly, it makes it difficult to compare eras really. The pitches are so good these days, which much help greatly for attackers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alb1owl Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, SiJ said: Not sure. Perhaps it was a more even league back in the day. We would often do pretty well against the likes of United and Arsenal at Hillsborough, whilst nowadays most of teams in the PL are cannon fodder for the top sides. Have the top teams got better, whilst the rest of the division isn't all that? Possibly. Think the level of spending in the PL often masks the fact that two thirds of the division range from mediocre to absolute crap. Still - I think elite players like Haaland play at elite clubs for a reason, whilst very good strikers back in the day (let's say Les Ferdinand) played at clubs a notch or two below that. If Haaland's job was so easy, then logically you could put any half decent striker in there and he would bag 40 or so goals a season. I don't think that would be the case though. It's a bit like anyone could manage Man City to the title. You could put Big Sam in charge and he'd replicate what Pep has done. He wouldn't. I still think he’s exceptional, that much is clear. He’s definitely in a league above the likes of Ferdinand as you say. But I don’t think he’s automatically better than Shearer, Kane, Van Nistelrooy or even an Aguero or Owen. Let’s not look past the fact that he misses some penalties and even some fairly simple chances. That might be harsh because it’s impossible to score every single chance, but it makes me think he’s at the very very top level, but not necessarily distinct from the others in that bracket, and that his frankly wild ratio couldn’t be emulated by others I’ve mentioned if they also happened to play for a team who has been just completely dominant. Not many eras have had teams like city who seem always to win 3-0 or better at home to teams 6 and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 None of andy coles 50 goals was penalties Id say thats a much bigher achievement than haalands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 hours ago, SiJ said: Not sure. Perhaps it was a more even league back in the day. We would often do pretty well against the likes of United and Arsenal at Hillsborough, whilst nowadays most of teams in the PL are cannon fodder for the top sides. Have the top teams got better, whilst the rest of the division isn't all that? Possibly. Think the level of spending in the PL often masks the fact that two thirds of the division range from mediocre to absolute crap. Still - I think elite players like Haaland play at elite clubs for a reason, whilst very good strikers back in the day (let's say Les Ferdinand) played at clubs a notch or two below that. If Haaland's job was so easy, then logically you could put any half decent striker in there and he would bag 40 or so goals a season. I don't think that would be the case though. It's a bit like anyone could manage Man City to the title. You could put Big Sam in charge and he'd replicate what Pep has done. He wouldn't. Yeah, yeah, but what if he was called Big Sam Alladarcio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Hasn’t done it on a cold Tuesday night in Stoke though has he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Coopio Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 19 hours ago, REDOWL said: He'd get in the Wednesday side maybe. Back in 2 weeks apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Quality players supplying him helps, coupled with his finishing skills. Same as HK @ Bayern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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