It’s looking like it’s down to us to save the club

[Steelman]

18 hours ago, goldensmoke said:

If what we are led to believe is true about the club’s current plight, then we must make a contingency as fans to stave off the folding of SWFC.

We seem to be sleep walking, apathetically, to oblivion. We can’t attend games, we can’t come together as a crowd to protest or make our feelings known; we somehow don’t seem to have a vibrant collective will to do something, to take any action. It’s almost as though some of us are  so fed up of and beaten by Wednesday and the characters who have played this thing out, that they can’t care anymore. 

 

When we see on Sky Sports News that Sheffield Wednesday are being wound up, will not start the League One season, imagine how that will feel.

When Hillsborough starts being demolished for a new Supermarket to be built. It would be unbearable.

if there is no income foreseeable to come in to solve the current problems, which it seems to be, the only answer is for us as fans to take the decision to stop the immediate existential threats to our club.

We can’t buy the club. But we can raise money to stave off the threat of extinction. If enough people have the will and the means to create a fund big enough to alleviate the immediate and short term issues that are happening right now, we can stop these real threats that are here at this exact moment. 
If we owe circa £12m in wages etc alone then the assumption would be with other likely problems happening that maybe north of £25-30 Million might be needed in the short term. 
How does anyone raise this  sort of capital?

 

10,000 supporters who can donate £1500 now is

£15 Million

 

10000 supporters who will commit £250.00 per month for 6 months, 

£15 Million

 

10000 supporters who will commit £125.00 per month for 12 months

£15 Million

 

Another option where supporters can commit whatever they feel they can, however small and however often, to the fighting fund.

£ Who knows how much? £3Million?

 

Whats in it for those who donate? 
Knowing that you saved Sheffield Wednesday when it needed saving. It’s our club. Maybe only we can save it. 
If we as an organised movement continue to raise funds and continue providing a safeguard against existential threats, eventually funds could be put towards fan engagement and creating a much better fan experience when coming to watch Wednesday. I’m talking about fan parks or fan zones in the vicinity of the ground. Securing Hillsborough Park for a fanzone or securing it for Wednesday fans to have before and after match time. A bit like the tailgate parties at US sporting events. 
If the club won’t engage and give us what we want and need, we should create the match day.
 

For now though the funds raised would be controlled and organised on the understanding that they specifically stave off threats to our club. The chairman does not spend it, its our donation for the good of the club.

I know we are a working class city, I know people want season ticket refunds, but the club seems to have no money.

 

When the club has gone would you pay £250.00 a month to bring going to the match at Sheffield Wednesday back? 
 

 I would.
 

If anyone wants to pick this up and run with it, I’ll be the first to donate.

 

 

And this, boys and girls, is why we should never do drugs.

[The Wall]

Chansiri reckons he's spent £350m on Wednesday. 

With that money he's achieved - Getting the club relegated, decimating the playing squad and now he can't pay the wages or ST refunds.

 

I'm just not sure he's the best custodian for my £1500

[Guest Hornsby]

22 minutes ago, abdiwonderland said:

 

I don't have an answer to the issues. Its something we have in common. 

New share offer to raise funds, like Rangers , Man U.

 

Refunds for shares offer, like  Lincoln to keep cash flow in club, for fans who want it.

[abdiwonderland]

12 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

New share offer to raise funds, like Rangers , Man U.

 

Refunds for shares offer, like  Lincoln to keep cash flow in club, for fans who want it.

 

Absolutely pointless. Its nothing money that does nothing. Rangers, a huge club, on the up with fans willing to invest in it, but yet their entire offer is based around the target of raising £6.75 million, with a minimum investment of £500 required to take part.

 

Yet we are going to raise 15m? Give over. 

 

People willing to invest £1500 in the current climate, id be amazed if we found 20 people.

[Kew Owl]

34 minutes ago, The Wall said:

Chansiri reckons he's spent £350m on Wednesday. 

With that money he's achieved - Getting the club relegated, decimating the playing squad and now he can't pay the wages or ST refunds.

 

I'm just not sure he's the best custodian for my £1500

Yes, that’s the sticking point - I could probably be persuaded to cough up my share to keep the club alive if invited to do so, but I certainly wouldn’t do it while Chansiri was still at the helm

[Manwë]

31 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

New share offer to raise funds, like Rangers , Man U.

 

Refunds for shares offer, like  Lincoln to keep cash flow in club, for fans who want it.

 

A fraction of 1%  of a worthless company is worth less than worthless.  No-one is going to buy shares in Wednesday (ie, give Chansiri money to let him make a mess of it).  

 

If there are genuinely thousands of fans (I believe there is), who can contribute £100 - £10000 (I believe there is on that wide scale), then those people need to get together, be on a list or something  and see what sort of purchasing power they have as a collective.  And wait.

 

I have savings, I'm happy to see Wednesday benefit from those savings if the time arises, but I wouldn't put a penny in to Chansiri's Wednesday for two reasons: 1 - It's dead money with no monetary or voting value, 2 - I don't trust the CEO/Chairman/Director/Owner to do anything with my money that benefits Wednesday.  

[sacré bleu]

I can't believe that anyone is taking the OP serious.

[dorian gray]

19 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

Who is it that gets the money from these donations?

ME, i'll post details shall i?

don't worry as it's in nigeria, it's all above board.

[dorian gray]

8 minutes ago, Manwë said:

 

A fraction of 1%  of a worthless company is worth less than worthless.  No-one is going to buy shares in Wednesday (ie, give Chansiri money to let him make a mess of it).  

 

If there are genuinely thousands of fans (I believe there is), who can contribute £100 - £10000 (I believe there is on that wide scale), then those people need to get together, be on a list or something  and see what sort of purchasing power they have as a collective.  And wait.

 

I have savings, I'm happy to see Wednesday benefit from those savings if the time arises, but I wouldn't put a penny in to Chansiri's Wednesday for two reasons: 1 - It's dead money with no monetary or voting value, 2 - I don't trust the CEO/Chairman/Director/Owner to do anything with my money that benefits Wednesday.  

he's trashed his own, can you imagine the use of yours?

[dorian gray]

19 hours ago, goldensmoke said:

If what we are led to believe is true about the club’s current plight, then we must make a contingency as fans to stave off the folding of SWFC.

We seem to be sleep walking, apathetically, to oblivion. We can’t attend games, we can’t come together as a crowd to protest or make our feelings known; we somehow don’t seem to have a vibrant collective will to do something, to take any action. It’s almost as though some of us are  so fed up of and beaten by Wednesday and the characters who have played this thing out, that they can’t care anymore. 

 

When we see on Sky Sports News that Sheffield Wednesday are being wound up, will not start the League One season, imagine how that will feel.

When Hillsborough starts being demolished for a new Supermarket to be built. It would be unbearable.

if there is no income foreseeable to come in to solve the current problems, which it seems to be, the only answer is for us as fans to take the decision to stop the immediate existential threats to our club.

We can’t buy the club. But we can raise money to stave off the threat of extinction. If enough people have the will and the means to create a fund big enough to alleviate the immediate and short term issues that are happening right now, we can stop these real threats that are here at this exact moment. 
If we owe circa £12m in wages etc alone then the assumption would be with other likely problems happening that maybe north of £25-30 Million might be needed in the short term. 
How does anyone raise this  sort of capital?

 

10,000 supporters who can donate £1500 now is

£15 Million

 

10000 supporters who will commit £250.00 per month for 6 months, 

£15 Million

 

10000 supporters who will commit £125.00 per month for 12 months

£15 Million

 

Another option where supporters can commit whatever they feel they can, however small and however often, to the fighting fund.

£ Who knows how much? £3Million?

 

Whats in it for those who donate? 
Knowing that you saved Sheffield Wednesday when it needed saving. It’s our club. Maybe only we can save it. 
If we as an organised movement continue to raise funds and continue providing a safeguard against existential threats, eventually funds could be put towards fan engagement and creating a much better fan experience when coming to watch Wednesday. I’m talking about fan parks or fan zones in the vicinity of the ground. Securing Hillsborough Park for a fanzone or securing it for Wednesday fans to have before and after match time. A bit like the tailgate parties at US sporting events. 
If the club won’t engage and give us what we want and need, we should create the match day.
 

For now though the funds raised would be controlled and organised on the understanding that they specifically stave off threats to our club. The chairman does not spend it, its our donation for the good of the club.

I know we are a working class city, I know people want season ticket refunds, but the club seems to have no money.

 

When the club has gone would you pay £250.00 a month to bring going to the match at Sheffield Wednesday back? 
 

 I would.
 

If anyone wants to pick this up and run with it, I’ll be the first to donate.

 

 

what have you got in the glass?

and how much is it a bottle?

[Costello 77]

11 minutes ago, sacré bleu said:

I can't believe that anyone is taking the OP serious.

It's because his heart's in the right place.

[Kew Owl]

18 minutes ago, sacré bleu said:

I can't believe that anyone is taking the OP serious.

I don’t people are taking it seriously as it stands at the moment, but the idea needs thinking through properly and that is what a lot of the later comments on here are attempting to do

 

 

 

 

[pioowl]

19 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

The thing is that YES there are many wealthy Wednesday fans out there 

There are many notable and famous Owls fans too who could really get this out there and get people up for it 

 

But I can’t think of a single one of them who doesn’t hate our chairman with a passion or hasn’t already spoken out about the plight of the club and how our fans have been treat over the last few years 

 

This idea couldn’t succeed because not a single wealthy or notable fan would go anywhere near any idea that leaves this chairman in position 

Dont think your 3rd para is true at all.Wasnt it about 50% vote for him to quit?

[dfoster]

Update from the club - not my usual source but trust me it's spot on - it's total chaos, no-one has heard anything from DC for ages and panic is setting in big time 

 

Don't shoot the messenger ... 

[Guest Hornsby]

55 minutes ago, Manwë said:

 

A fraction of 1%  of a worthless company is worth less than worthless.  No-one is going to buy shares in Wednesday (ie, give Chansiri money to let him make a mess of it).  

 

If there are genuinely thousands of fans (I believe there is), who can contribute £100 - £10000 (I believe there is on that wide scale), then those people need to get together, be on a list or something  and see what sort of purchasing power they have as a collective.  And wait.

 

I have savings, I'm happy to see Wednesday benefit from those savings if the time arises, but I wouldn't put a penny in to Chansiri's Wednesday for two reasons: 1 - It's dead money with no monetary or voting value, 2 - I don't trust the CEO/Chairman/Director/Owner to do anything with my money that benefits Wednesday.  

Of course, like our last B share offering would have to be incentives.

 

Not a money maker, but nor is a season ticket.

 

Main thing for me is you have a legal right  then hold him to account.

 

See the 102 questions Magner mob sent to Man U Board to blow up Fergie litigation.

 

in 3 mins.

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, dfoster said:

Update from the club - not my usual source but trust me it's spot on - it's total chaos, no-one has heard anything from DC for ages and panic is setting in big time 

 

Don't shoot the messenger ... 

 

Accurate 

[swfc1983]

33 minutes ago, dfoster said:

Update from the club - not my usual source but trust me it's spot on - it's total chaos, no-one has heard anything from DC for ages and panic is setting in big time 

 

Don't shoot the messenger ... 

 

If this current situation won’t shake him into action then nothing will. His only option is to sell, its akin to being almost bankrupt but having a classic Ferrari rotting away in the garage.

[sacré bleu]

50 minutes ago, Kew Owl said:

I don’t people are taking it seriously as it stands at the moment, but the idea needs thinking through properly and that is what a lot of the later comments on here are attempting to do

 

 

 

 

Fair enough but I personally think that although the figures suggested by the op are probably what is needed I feel that its fantasy world to think they could be achieved.

 

[Guest Hornsby]

20 hours ago, goldensmoke said:

If what we are led to believe is true about the club’s current plight, then we must make a contingency as fans to stave off the folding of SWFC.

We seem to be sleep walking, apathetically, to oblivion. We can’t attend games, we can’t come together as a crowd to protest or make our feelings known; we somehow don’t seem to have a vibrant collective will to do something, to take any action. It’s almost as though some of us are  so fed up of and beaten by Wednesday and the characters who have played this thing out, that they can’t care anymore. 

 

When we see on Sky Sports News that Sheffield Wednesday are being wound up, will not start the League One season, imagine how that will feel.

When Hillsborough starts being demolished for a new Supermarket to be built. It would be unbearable.

if there is no income foreseeable to come in to solve the current problems, which it seems to be, the only answer is for us as fans to take the decision to stop the immediate existential threats to our club.

We can’t buy the club. But we can raise money to stave off the threat of extinction. If enough people have the will and the means to create a fund big enough to alleviate the immediate and short term issues that are happening right now, we can stop these real threats that are here at this exact moment. 
If we owe circa £12m in wages etc alone then the assumption would be with other likely problems happening that maybe north of £25-30 Million might be needed in the short term. 
How does anyone raise this  sort of capital?

 

10,000 supporters who can donate £1500 now is

£15 Million

 

10000 supporters who will commit £250.00 per month for 6 months, 

£15 Million

 

10000 supporters who will commit £125.00 per month for 12 months

£15 Million

 

Another option where supporters can commit whatever they feel they can, however small and however often, to the fighting fund.

£ Who knows how much? £3Million?

 

Whats in it for those who donate? 
Knowing that you saved Sheffield Wednesday when it needed saving. It’s our club. Maybe only we can save it. 
If we as an organised movement continue to raise funds and continue providing a safeguard against existential threats, eventually funds could be put towards fan engagement and creating a much better fan experience when coming to watch Wednesday. I’m talking about fan parks or fan zones in the vicinity of the ground. Securing Hillsborough Park for a fanzone or securing it for Wednesday fans to have before and after match time. A bit like the tailgate parties at US sporting events. 
If the club won’t engage and give us what we want and need, we should create the match day.
 

For now though the funds raised would be controlled and organised on the understanding that they specifically stave off threats to our club. The chairman does not spend it, its our donation for the good of the club.

I know we are a working class city, I know people want season ticket refunds, but the club seems to have no money.

 

When the club has gone would you pay £250.00 a month to bring going to the match at Sheffield Wednesday back? 
 

 I would.
 

If anyone wants to pick this up and run with it, I’ll be the first to donate.

 

 

Chuck in voting shares with incentives and I'm in option 1.

 

Or some TUG shares . 

 

Or via our Trust, like 106 fan societies of UK sports clubs.

[@owlstalk]

1 hour ago, dfoster said:

Update from the club - not my usual source but trust me it's spot on - it's total chaos, no-one has heard anything from DC for ages and panic is setting in big time 

 

Don't shoot the messenger ... 

 

 

Let’s hope it’s not like you see in the papers where staff turn up on a Monday morning and the shutters are down and the place has gone