parkfieldowl14 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, scram said: I'm pretty sure place names aren't copywrited So for eg you wouldn't need permission to use the name Sheffield for your new business - for eg Sheffield Plumbing And i'm also pretty sure that team names are copywrited - so the legal wrangles to try to force them to change names would be finiancially catastrophic for any council/authority to consider Great Point there.In the longer term, Is there a possibilty that the owners will eventually relocate the clubs to other parts of the World ie China and the Far East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If this had happened maybe 10-20 years ago I think it would have been a huge loss to the game. Some traditional big hitters lost. But they look like corporations vs clubs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: Exactly it's called competition, and you win it on merit. It’s a rigged competition and has been for many years, gets worse all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Of course it is not the first money grab or opportunity to seek financial gain. It is a watershed moment though - creating a European Super League that is a closed shop in terms of its elite members never being relegated and the rest being invite-only. It would move them from being dominant domestically to being more or less untouchable. Leicester winning the league and Arsenal, Man Utd and Milan falling down the league pecking order has pushed this forward, as has the huge debts of the Spanish clubs. But still absolutely inevitable with the obscene about of money chucked about by these top clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, parkfieldowl14 said: Great Point there.In the longer term, Is there a possibilty that the owners will eventually relocate the clubs to other parts of the World ie China and the Far East? Of course they will. It will be up to the highest bidder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: As opposed to never winning it because of them. Anyone who wins the Premier League without them in it wouldn’t be held in as high regard because it would no longer mean that you’re the best team in the country. Maybe even only 7th best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: It's Man U v Real Madrid from Riyadh!!! THis game is going to be hot, it's 45C here right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Bluesteel said: It’s a rigged competition and has been for many years, gets worse all the time. It can be unrigged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, scram said: TBH much of the outcry and protestation is very simlar to when the PL was being developed It is but football in this country at that time wasn't in a great place. Thatcher had made it a bit of an aspect of society to be looked down upon and the European ban didn't help. We were coming out of that at the time of the PL formation but the format was ripe for a revamp. It was clearly geared towards the benefit of the big 6 at the time but at least it kept the traditions of promotion and relegation and reward for winning the league with some money trickling down. Compared to the likes of La Liga and Serie A where the big clubs have long monopolised TV money, it was a way forward. This seems like even more of a power grab to address the fact that the big 6 are being challenged by others so they want to put a stop to all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, parkfieldowl14 said: Great Point there.In the longer term, Is there a possibilty that the owners will eventually relocate the clubs to other parts of the World ie China and the Far East? Would seem like a logical end point - cities bid for the "right" tohave the franchise established in their city Wouldn't surprise me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Utah Owl said: THis game is going to be hot, it's 45C here right now! And as per ESL rules, there can be no draws. Next goal wins if the scores are tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, TheGaffer said: Of course they will. It will be up to the highest bidder. Absolutely.It will be no different to that of the Major Companies that has shipped out most of it's manufacturing capacity from the West to the Far East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl_83 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Never realised that Barcelona are in over €1 Billion of debt. That is frightening. Their New Debt (the amount of assets they have minus how much money they owe) is €488 Million. Before Covid, the 12 clubs lost £1.2 Billion a year. No wonder they are looking for more revenue. Players wages seriously need to be looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl_83 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, owl_83 said: Never realised that Barcelona are in over €1 Billion of debt. That is frightening. Their New Debt (the amount of assets they have minus how much money they owe) is €488 Million. Before Covid, the 12 clubs lost £1.2 Billion a year. No wonder they are looking for more revenue. Players wages seriously need to be looked at. Sorry meant Net Debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, scram said: Would seem like a logical end point - cities bid for the "right" tohave the franchise established in their city Wouldn't surprise me Great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheGaffer said: Of course they will. It will be up to the highest bidder. and the best players will follow the money - as they always have done in the main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: It’s a rigged competition and has been for many years, gets worse all the time. Yes and no.. but as I posted earlier in this thread, pre premier league days the big 6 plus Leeds and Everton (who were big 6 type clubs at the time) won 24 out of 28 between 1964-92. That’s not hugely different to the 26 out of 28 since the PL was formed. You have to go back to the 1950s and earlier to find a time where anyone could win it on a regular basis really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, scram said: Would seem like a logical end point - cities bid for the "right" tohave the franchise established in their city Wouldn't surprise me Thin end of the wedge this. The next thing will be the ESL offer to run top leagues in domestic football. Completely overriding the FA, UEFA etc. That's how the Premier League started and we accept that. (a lot didn't at the time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Bet Rick Parry is all for this btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: It can be unrigged Much easier when the puppet masters aren’t involved any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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