SallyCinnamon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, shandypants said: Carlos, Bruce and Pulis are not bad managers. Bruce never managed Rhodes. Carlos had lost the plot after the Play Off defeat at Wednesday. Pulis won 1 in 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlicer Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Sign him up. He will read league one a new hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Bruce never managed Rhodes. Carlos had lost the plot after the Play Off defeat at Wednesday. Pulis won 1 in 10. OK then. Carlos and Pulis aren't bad managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, shandypants said: OK then. Carlos and Pulis aren't bad managers. They were bad at Wednesday when Rhodes was available. Perhaps if they started Rhodes more often they might have won more games than they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Always felt to me that we signed him without knowing what sort of player he was and how to get the best out of him. He's a poacher, that's his strength. Comes alive in the box, but not always the best when it comes to linking play up, holding the ball up etc. It's an absolute no brainer to start him in every game from now until the end of the season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbirks Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Therealrealist said: Criminally underused for 4 years I really don't think this is true. He's been given ample opportunity for 4 years. Also given chances at Norwich and didn't light it up. It's just that now (finally... maybe) it seems to be clicking. Annoying that it's happening at contract end, but hopefully will work out for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: They were bad at Wednesday when Rhodes was available. Perhaps if they started Rhodes more often they might have won more games than they did. Perhaps but It can't be dressed up that Rhodes hasn't scored previously because he wasn't getting the service. Rhodes is getting goals because HIS game is better. as @Jamie_Wsaid, Rhodes has had runs before and not done the business. Also, he was playing with better players in his previous runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Grandad said: WEVE NOT PLAYED HIM What you talkin bout... He has played in like 92 games for us in what 4yrs. and one of those years he was on loan to Norwich.. I understand what you are saying, we could have played him more but with a goals per game of less than 1 goal per 5 games played... When you consider unlike say Nuhui he often offers very little else but goals, which is great if he is scoring like he used to, he is a goal poacher... You can understand why so many managers have lost patience with him.. Its only out of necessity we have been playing him.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, cbirks said: I really don't think this is true. He's been given ample opportunity for 4 years. Also given chances at Norwich and didn't light it up. It's just that now (finally... maybe) it seems to be clicking. Annoying that it's happening at contract end, but hopefully will work out for us. The stats I posted a couple of pages suggests he has not been given enough game time to find some form and score on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Always felt to me that we signed him without knowing what sort of player he was and how to get the best out of him. The Chanisri / Paixao era in a nutshell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, shandypants said: OK then. Carlos and Pulis aren't bad managers. 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: They were bad at Wednesday when Rhodes was available. Perhaps if they started Rhodes more often they might have won more games than they did. Carlos played Rhodes far more than many of us remember. Despite having Joao, Nuhiu, Fletcher, Forestieri, Hooper and Winnall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: Always felt to me that we signed him without knowing what sort of player he was and how to get the best out of him. He's a poacher, that's his strength. Comes alive in the box, but not always the best when it comes to linking play up, holding the ball up etc. It's an absolute no brainer to start him in every game from now until the end of the season. This ^. The problem before was down to Rhodes. We put the ball in the box often enough - he just wasn't doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, catdog1121 said: What you talkin bout... He has played in like 92 games for us in what 4yrs. and one of those years he was on loan to Norwich.. I understand what you are saying, we could have played him more but with a goals per game of less than 1 goal per 5 games played... When you consider unlike say Nuhui he often offers very little else but goals, which is great if he is scoring like he used to, he is a goal poacher... You can understand why so many managers have lost patience with him.. Its only out of necessity we have been playing him.. Another "nail on the head" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, catdog1121 said: What you talkin bout... He has played in like 92 games for us in what 4yrs. and one of those years he was on loan to Norwich.. I understand what you are saying, we could have played him more but with a goals per game of less than 1 goal per 5 games played... When you consider unlike say Nuhui he often offers very little else but goals, which is great if he is scoring like he used to, he is a goal poacher... You can understand why so many managers have lost patience with him.. Its only out of necessity we have been playing him.. 16/17 - 14 starts 17/18 -17 starts 18/19 - 9 starts 19/20 - 7 starts 20/21 - 9 starts There’s 46 games in a season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Carlos didn’t have a clue how to get the best out of Rhodes, ridiculous considering he was the manager when we signed him. If you play to his strengths he will score goals, hence the reason he’s just a handful of goals from being the highest goal scorer in Championship history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, shandypants said: This ^. The problem before was down to Rhodes. We put the ball in the box often enough - he just wasn't doing it. I don't entirely agree. I can't recall Jordan missing hatfuls of chances. In fact, his finishing is often very good. A better finisher than say Fletcher imo. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Carlos played Rhodes far more than many of us remember. Despite having Joao, Nuhiu, Fletcher, Forestieri, Hooper and Winnall. Carlos played very boring and predictable slow build up football. By the time we got the ball to the edge of the area it was packed and Rhodes didn’t have the space he needed to score goals. He absolutely destroyed Rhodes confidence in such a negative side that created less and less the longer he stayed at the club. Get the ball forward quickly, get crosses into the box and he’ll score goals. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: I don't entirely agree. I can't recall Jordan missing hatfuls of chances. In fact, his finishing is often very good. A better finisher than say Fletcher imo. Someone highlighted how many chances were made in our games a few seasons ago and it was quite high. Other players have scored for us consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I remember when Carlos signed Rhodes. A goal scorer wasn’t actually the issue. We had plenty of goal scorers available. We just weren’t creating much. And then for the remainder of the 16/17 season, Carlos didn’t play to his strengths whatsoever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbrookseyowl Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, DJMortimer said: From memory, when he first arrived he missed only 1 of the first 22 games (rested for an early round cup match), starting 16 of them. He scored just 3, and that was in a team that finished 4th that first season. Put crosses in the box and he will score - that’s why he was prolific for other teams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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