Players thought Pulis was going?

[Maddogbob]

Just now, Prince said:

£££££

And if that's his sole motivation, he just joins another long line off utter mercenaries that have taken more out of the club than they have returned in performance. 

 

And that's exactly why we find ourselves in our current plight. Excluding the effect of covid, which we can't really lay at swfc door. 

[cowl]

1 minute ago, Maddogbob said:

Thing is, DC will either ignore it or more likely just go into full stubborn mode. 

 

At a guess anyway. 

 

Yep. Pulis trying a few old tricks might seem like a plan to him, but I bet he's never worked for a guy like Chansiri before. Trying to second guess that guy is a mug's game.

[Maddogbob]

Just now, cowl said:

 

Yep. Pulis trying a few old tricks might seem like a plan to him, but I bet he's never worked for a guy like Chansiri before. Trying to second guess that guy is a mug's game.

Yep, that won't won't work here. 

 

 

[Joe Sunburn]

2 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

So we've now got a manager trapped in a job he doesn't want?

 

How do we think that's gonna turn out?

Wait a minute. That’s me ! 
 

[83owl]

13 minutes ago, Maddogbob said:

And if that's his sole motivation, he just joins another long line off utter mercenaries that have taken more out of the club than they have returned in performance. 

 

And that's exactly why we find ourselves in our current plight. Excluding the effect of covid, which we can't really lay at swfc door. 

 

Tony Pulis must pay Crystal Palace £3.77m after he was found to have deceived a Premier League managers’ arbitration tribunal. He lost his appeal against an arbitration ruling that followed his departure from the club in 2014.

 

The West Bromwich Albion manager left his post at Selhurst Park less than 48 hours before their opening game of the season against Arsenal after a dispute over a £2m “survival” bonus he was due for saving Palace from relegation. The Palace owner, Steve Parish, agreed to pay Pulis the bonus more than two weeks before it was due but demanded he return it after his sudden and unexpected departure two days later.

 

In March the Premier League’s mediation panel found in favour of Palace and Parish, with Pulis ordered to return the bonus and pay a further £1m in legal costs and damages for breach of contract. That decision was appealed by Pulis but a ruling from the commercial court last week dismissed his appeal and ordered him to pay liquidated damages for £1.5m as well as £2.276m damages for “deceit”.

 

Details emerged in a written ruling published by the judge on Monday. Pulis alleged there had been “serious irregularity” in the panel’s initial decision, which was taken under the FA’s Rule K Arbitrations, a method of resolving disputes without going to court which usually ensures confidentiality. However, Judge Sir Michael Burton dismissed Pulis’s appeal after upholding the panel’s verdict he had made two fraudulent misrepresentations.

 

The first related to a claim Pulis had assured Parish he was committed to the club and would be staying until at least 31 August 2014, when the bonus was due to be paid. He had told Palace he urgently needed the money early so “he could buy some land for his children” but Sir Michael found there was a “lack of evidence” to support this claim.

 

Pulis had also alleged a “heated players meeting” (HPM) took place on 12 August; but the mediation panel ruled it had taken place on 8 August – four days before he received the payment. That was despite oral evidence to the contrary from the Palace players Lewis Price and Stuart O’Keefe.

 

That was dismissed by the judge due to evidence provided by Parish that he had not been at the training ground, including his presence at a hairdressers on the day in question.

 

“The arbitrators set the oral evidence for the claimant against the following,” read the ruling. “First, the evidence of Mr Parish, the chairman, in the following paragraphs. In paragraph 45 the evidence of Mr Parish is recorded that the HPM could not have taken place on 12 August as the claimant claimed, since he, Mr Parish, was not at the training ground on 12 August.

 

“But so far as Mr Parish is concerned, the arbitrators set out in paragraphs 56, 57, 62, 63, 64 and 78 to 79 the evidence which was adduced as to Mr Parish’s movements on 12 August, and the supportive evidence of taxi fares, of telecommunications evidence called as expert evidence, and the hairdressing salon at which he attended on the relevant morning when the HPM is said to have occurred, and the arbitrators were persuaded by that evidence.”

 

The panel added that Pulis was “not willing to concede the heated players’ meeting did not occur on 12 August because he otherwise had no explanation [for his departure]”. The original ruling found Pulis’s standards of conduct had “been shown to be disgraceful”. That was referenced in Sir Michael’s final decision which said he had “reached a consequential conclusion that it was appropriate in the circumstances to make an award of indemnity costs because of their conclusions as to the conduct of the claimant.”

 

The judge said he had analysed Pulis’s complaints about the arbitrators’ decisions and concluded his challenge should be dismissed. He said he would enforce the damages awarded by the arbitrators. Sir Michael said the arbitration panel had heard evidence behind closed doors.

He had also analysed Pulis’s challenge at a private hearing – in line with judges’ normal policy but thought it appropriate his ruling should be made public.

 

Pulis ended up paying nearly 6m in total. Doubt he will walkaway from any job at the minute. 

[Maddogbob]

This is interesting from nixon, also what's up with wobbly spice? 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Maddogbob

[Owls Loyal]

It certainly is mysterious.

 

Nixon is the absolute oracle where the inside track in football is concerned.

 

But TP is a wise and canny old hand and I am hoping that he is using the media to pressurise for some funds in January.

 

As others have stated it is nigh on impossible to read DC but looking at the current picture if he backs Pulis and we manage to somehow stay up then SWFC is worth something and in a post Covid 19 world might be an option for other potential owners or to stay on himself.

 

On the other hand if there are no funds available TP will walk because of his record of having never taken a club down.

 

In that scenario in League 1 next year SWFC is worth  £0.00.

 

Let us hope it is the former scenario.

[gillyno9]

10 page thread on here so I just asked Nixon. He seems to reply to me for some reason. 

[mcmigo]

If people think this is Pulis trying to squeeze dc for transfer funds then you need to check in at the mad house.

 

We cannot afford to pay our players. We aren’t signing anyone. We are out of cash.  Tony Pulis can say what he likes , but unless he has 100m of Tuna ready to can up and sell then his words are of no consequence.

 

 

[Sergeant Tibbs]

3 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

Bugger

Quite, we could have done with some good news in these challenging times.

[@owlstalk]

3 minutes ago, Owls Loyal said:

 But TP is a wise and canny old hand and I am hoping that he is using the media to pressurise for some funds in January. 

 

 

I'm not sure how that would work though with our Chairman 

 

[Maddogbob]

2 minutes ago, mcmigo said:

If people think this is Pulis trying to squeeze dc for transfer funds then you need to check in at the mad house.

 

We cannot afford to pay our players. We aren’t signing anyone. We are out of cash.  Tony Pulis can say what he likes , but unless he has 100m of Tuna ready to can up and sell then his words are of no consequence.

 

 

Then why is he dummy chucking to the press? 

 

Do the job or don't. 

 

This approach won't work. Not with DC. 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Maddogbob

[@owlstalk]

[Guest mrbluesky]

Balderdash.

[Owls Loyal]

I guess if we need to check in at the mad house we will already find McMigo in there.

 

He was one af the very few who wanted to keep Monk as manager!!!!!

[Inspector Lestrade]

Just now, @owlstalk said:

 

As ever first to the story

[@owlstalk]

Just now, Inspector Lestrade said:

 

As ever first to the story

 

[mcmigo]

2 minutes ago, Owls Loyal said:

I guess if we need to check in at the mad house we will already find McMigo in there.

 

He was one af the very few who wanted to keep Monk as manager!!!!!

Post not poster

[JOCOWl]

3 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said:

Bang on. 
 

Pulis defo wants out. He won’t get the players he wants in January.

 

If he wants out he can go. Nobody signs a contract binding you to the club for the full duration of the contract without any get out clause, anyone can walk. If he was thinking about it it's the fact he will lose a lot in salary and struggle to get a job elsewhere in the future knowing he's walked away after a few weeks. There are no top teams wanting him anymore so this is his level, he walks after such a short period and he drops further down. 

[mcmigo]

4 minutes ago, Maddogbob said:

Then why is he dummy chucking to the press? 

 

Do the job or don't. 

 

This approach won't work. Not with DC. 

No idea.

assume he is making himself out to be the wronged one in all of this. Poor Tony.