@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: To be fair Monk's doing his best to prove them right. Yeah I kinda wasn't aware of that until the 1352469375923692479 posts from 3 people telling me that 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Jos and Monk haven't destroyed the club Neither did Francis or Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Yeah I kinda wasn't aware of that until the 1352469375923692479 posts from 3 people telling me that Your going to have to post some more form tables to make them see sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: Your going to have to post some more form tables to make them see sense I can't this weekend but might do after the next game (win) 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I can't this weekend but might do after the next game (win) Hope you prove me wrong..... honestly (you see what i did there?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I wish we could hear more about this We don't really seem to ever hear about it here on Owlstalk It's very much a dry desert when it comes to views like this He's a coach that inherited a decent Swansea side and been living off one decent finish to the season there. What's he done since that as merited the jobs he's had and as he stuck out any of his other jobs and shown anything at any of them to suggest he can be an effective long term option? His record suggests he has good short spells at clubs followed by dramatic collapses, the likes of which we saw last season. The future would look brighter with Monk, if he adapted his tactics, played to the players strengths at his disposal or brought in players to suit how he wants to play, and showed a clear philosophy or direction to get behind. However, nothing has changed since last season, especially at home, even despite having his own staff and bringing in some of his own players. I'd love for Monk to keep us up and to take us forward but nothing he's done here or previously during his managerial career suggests he can do that long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, The Night-Owl said: He's a coach that inherited a decent Swansea side and been living off one decent finish to the season there. What's he done since that as merited the jobs he's had and as he stuck out any of his other jobs and shown anything at any of them to suggest he can be an effective long term option? His record suggests he has good short spells at clubs followed by dramatic collapses, the likes of which we saw last season. The future would look brighter with Monk, if he adapted his tactics, played to the players strengths at his disposal or brought in players to suit how he wants to play, and showed a clear philosophy or direction to get behind. However, nothing has changed since last season, especially at home, even despite having his own staff and bringing in some of his own players. I'd love for Monk to keep us up and to take us forward but nothing he's done here or previously during his managerial career suggests he can do that long term. Yeah I was being sarcastic? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miruic Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, McRightSide said: He played once I think, against Swansea Lots of people remember a poor second half performance (as everyone turned in) and especially that he switched off for the penalty What everyone always forgets is that in the first half he actually played well and was arguably our best player in a performance that should have seen us going into HT quite comfortably Was it home or away? I still can’t picture it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Miruic said: Was it home or away? I still can’t picture it. Away We did so well first half, just didn’t score Second half Reach got caught wrong side and went full Odubajo, Monk hailed him off 1 minute later. He never played LWB again (until yesterday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: He's a coach that inherited a decent Swansea side and been living off one decent finish to the season there. What's he done since that as merited the jobs he's had and as he stuck out any of his other jobs and shown anything at any of them to suggest he can be an effective long term option? His record suggests he has good short spells at clubs followed by dramatic collapses, the likes of which we saw last season. The future would look brighter with Monk, if he adapted his tactics, played to the players strengths at his disposal or brought in players to suit how he wants to play, and showed a clear philosophy or direction to get behind. However, nothing has changed since last season, especially at home, even despite having his own staff and bringing in some of his own players. I'd love for Monk to keep us up and to take us forward but nothing he's done here or previously during his managerial career suggests he can do that long term. Not sure I quite follow when you say ‘he’s done nothing here or previously... to suggest he can do that long term’ Can you elaborate a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Thank Christ for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Best game he’s in ages says it all. The guy isn’t a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Miruic said: I’m guessing it’s already been said but I’m pretty sure Reach has already been tried at lwb under Monk. When he was he just reminded everyone how nesh he is in a challenge. Hopefully he can do a job for us there but one decent game isn’t enough to convince me. 70 minutes he played. Created two golden chances but we missed both. Da Cruz I recall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 League 1 Reachy. That's your position. Our only problem is, we are paying you top end Championship wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, cowl said: How? There's a whole world of difference between actually contradicting someone and carefully leaving open the possibility of multiple interpretations in the words we use. Your attempt to suggest it's not a contradiction because what Monk said was true at the time is, quite frankly, ridiculous. -On one hand its "look at what what was said" and on the other it's "take what's said with a pinch of salt". -I didn't qualify my point based on this, I offered an example. That reference was to try to keep the context of the topic as people tend to take isolated posts and wander off down a side street. Please see my earlier comments about my thought on any "contradiction"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 hours ago, slinger208b said: Are you sure about that?.. Think you misquoted there, that wasn't me stating that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, trevdi9 said: oops , wonder if reach will get the cold shoulder Not sure but it's getting quite crowded down the left with Penney, Reach, Bannan & Harris all enjoying attacking the kop without straying too far from the North Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: Think you misquoted there, that wasn't me stating that. Well I pressed the "Quote" option. I was only asking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, slinger208b said: -On one hand its "look at what what was said" and on the other it's "take what's said with a pinch of salt". -I didn't qualify my point based on this, I offered an example. That reference was to try to keep the context of the topic as people tend to take isolated posts and wander off down a side street. Please see my earlier comments about my thought on any "contradiction"... Where? You've posted a lot in this thread. Are you trying to confound the argument, by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, cowl said: Where? You've posted a lot in this thread. Are you trying to confound the argument, by any chance? On the contrary. I'm fed up with having to explain things for those who don't understand the meanings of words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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