Guest Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, slinger208b said: Where he wants to play isn't necessarily where he is most effective... You think he will be more effective in a position he isn't comfortable with where he has looked like a fish out of water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, oldishowl said: Tell you something, the only people who will two hoots about it are the conspiracists on here. Course he’s a wide player, we agree on that. But that didn’t stop Carlos playing him up front and full back, nor Jos playing him central midfield, nor Bruce playing him in both centre midfield and the number 10 role. If you don’t care? Why are you getting involved... I just find the mixed messages odd. Take from it what you will. Just appears player and manager aren’t on the same page. But Carlos, or Bruce didn’t come out in the press and state they see him most effective down the middle as a striker. Fair enough doing a job, but Monk has come out and said they both agree that’s where he is best. For Reach to come out a month later and say the complete opposite. It’s not a good look however you or OwlsTalkForEveryone try to play it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Most on here have been saying it for months...We tried him through the middle last year...simply didn't work....we have tried it this year...hasn't worked...He totally disappears in that role 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, slinger208b said: Where he wants to play isn't necessarily where he is most effective... To be fair he was getting loads of goals and assists up front. Who put cross in for the goal yesterday btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: You think he will be more effective in a position he isn't comfortable with where he has looked like a fish out of water? This isn't about what I think, just trying to put a click bait topic into perspective... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Monk has had more than 1 game. Ah that's ok then One game - get a draw - SACKED Let's apply that method to all managers No nonsense just sack em Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: About ONE conversation Are you saying there has been no conversation between them since? Or are we all just going to hold onto that one conversation forever and discount the others, just like people do when only looking at the second half of last season and not looking at the first half? What are you banging on about? It doesn't matter how many other conversations there were. This one contradicts the version that Monk claimed happened. What else do you think Reach means by: “In this formation I think it's my best position. I think I've got a lot of capabilities there.”? The formation hasn't changed, so unless the reality is that Reach has no idea about what his best position is and thought that all of a sudden his best position would be one that he's never played for anything more than the last 20 or 30 minutes of games then it's hard to imagine him ever having said to Monk that he thought his best position would be as a forward playing centrally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Ah that's ok then One game - get a draw - SACKED Let's apply that method to all managers No nonsense just sack em No, lets completely disregard his previous 12 months in charge because something happened in December that he couldn't be expected to handle (who knows what). Other than being a bit tighter at the back, little has changed, we play in the same negative way and struggle to score. One win in 4 won't keep us up. I sort of admire you sticking by him, in the face of very little if any evidence that it will work, the definition of blind faith. Just don't be surprised when it doesn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, 0114 said: To be fair he was getting loads of goals and assists up front. Who put cross in for the goal yesterday btw? Irrelevant. This topic is an example of how bad rumours or chinese whispers are instigated. I'm merely trying to highlight that the claim in the OP is inaccurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, slinger208b said: No. Eg Reach isn't getting as much game time as he'd like so he asks for time in a different position. Doesn't mean he disagrees. Also I believe it was a central position, not necessarily forward... So you think Reach is merely being pragmatic about it? And perhaps if he fails to get a wing-back spot if he'll start talking up his credentials to play centre back? And a central position isn't a wing position which is what Reach is saying is his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 "But there's an opportunity to use him in certain games or certain situations where his quality in terms of that striker position can be effective." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, cowl said: What are you banging on about? It doesn't matter how many other conversations there were. Oh I have made that mistake again where I forget that everything has to fit the agenda of piling onto the Sheffield Wednesday manager repeatedly By pointing out common sense and suggesting nuance I've let the side down Now... Pass me a pitchfork and flaming torch and let's get this Monk fella destroyed once and for all 1 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, cowl said: So you think Reach is merely being pragmatic about it? And perhaps if he fails to get a wing-back spot if he'll start talking up his credentials to play centre back? And a central position isn't a wing position which is what Reach is saying is his best position. Best for him? Best for the team? Best for game time? Best doesnt necessarily equal most effective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: No, lets completely disregard his previous 12 months in charge because something happened in December that he couldn't be expected to handle (who knows what). Other than being a bit tighter at the back, little has changed, we play in the same negative way and struggle to score. One win in 4 won't keep us up. I sort of admire you sticking by him, in the face of very little if any evidence that it will work, the definition of blind faith. Just don't be surprised when it doesn't work out. I'm not sticking up for Garry Monk I'm sticking up for nuance, common sense, decency and balanced views Seems I'm out on my own but I don't care - I'd do the same no matter who the manager/player was and there was a rabid frothing at the mouth gang mentality where anyone not fiercely attacking them with every single post gets mocked/bullied/accused of being paid by the club 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Comical Ali alive and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Not read all of the thread but from what I have read We were short of strikers so Monk asked Reach to play through the middle and Reach agreed. Now we have options upfront he's asked Monk if he can play out wide and Monk said yes. So obviously there's a problem between them? Edited October 4, 2020 by darra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, darra said: Not read all of the thread but from what I have read We were short of strikers so Monk asked Reach to play through the middle and Reach agreed. Now we have options upfront he's asked Monk if he can play out wide and Monk said yes. Pretty much yes But it doesn't fit the mob's agenda 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I'm not sticking up for Garry Monk I'm sticking up for nuance, common sense, decency and balanced views Seems I'm out on my own but I don't care - I'd do the same no matter who the manager/player was and there was a rabid frothing at the mouth gang mentality where anyone not fiercely attacking them with every single post gets mocked/bullied/accused of being paid by the club If yer "out on your own" its not a f.ookin' balanced view is it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, asteener1867 said: If yer "out on your own" its not a f.ookin' balanced view is it There are others of the same opinion but they're nowhere NEAR as important as I am 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Thought Reach had a decent game as well yesterday, if Penney isn’t to play it has to be Reach on the left and Odubajo/Harris on the right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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