Morepork Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 55 minutes ago, Plonk said: Hold on one minute. Weren’t Derby and us charged around the same time? But the league have agreed to bring our trial forward but leave Derby’s where it was? Well that hat sounds very fair. How can two clubs have the same charges at the same time, and it looks like one will be impacted this season, and one next? That goes against every rule rule of fairness. Essentially we did the same thing but for me it always comes back to the backdating of the Stadium sale, something Derby most certainly did not do. To my mind the only thing that saves us is correspondence from EFL essentially agreeing this at some point before going back on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Orlando_Trustful said: I'll be honest, I am pretty confident about this. 1. They have rushed our independent panel to start due to club complaints, but not Derby's. If us and Derby were both expecting big deductions it would have to be at similar times 2. Chansiri, Meire and Redgate were cleared of their charges in relation to this case 3. Whether or not 100% true, it is to be believed the club have evidence from the EFL sanctioning this sale (if we had zero evidence to counter argue then this would not go to an independent panel) 4. It seems the EFL are desperate to claim any win to curb the continuous issues of FFP (even a large fine and a small points deduction ends this problem for them for now) 5. An independent panel gives us a stronger chance rather than having the EFL decide 6. If found guilty and the punishment is huge, we could launch an appeal (Court of Arbitration for Sport) and this drags on and on We aren't going down due to a points deduction. Just corrected a bit for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Owl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 If we get busted and go down, this is 100% Chansiri’s fault and he should get out of the club ASAP. Even if we manage to avoid punishment, his reckless management of our club has put us in a financially precarious position where we don’t even own our own stadium, and he should look to move on anyway. Literally all that’s improved from his time here is the scoreboard and the pitch. Whatever the outcome of the case, it will take years for us to recover from what he’s done here and be in a position to mount a serious challenge for promotion, When it couldn’t be a worse time for us with United doing well in the Premier League. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Loxley Owl said: If we get busted and go down, this is 100% Chansiri’s fault and he should get out of the club ASAP. Even if we manage to avoid punishment, his reckless management of our club has put us in a financially precarious position where we don’t even own our own stadium, and he should look to move on anyway. Literally all that’s improved from his time here is the scoreboard and the pitch. Whatever the outcome of the case, it will take years for us to recover from what he’s done here and be in a position to mount a serious challenge for promotion, When it couldn’t be a worse time for us with United doing well in the Premier League. Hard to disagree with any of that. I for one will be unable to move on from that with DC at the helm. Untenable IMO. Although that doesn't mean he'd sell up..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Everyone start preparing for League 1 next season because that is where we will be. Total shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 As I have said before, we get usually start the decade by being relegated. 1970 1990 2000 2010 Looks like we are heading that way again. I still think if it is anything less than 15 points we will dig in and stay up . anything more will me trouble at the mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 What the fűčk happened?.....thought I'd have an early night and this is what I wake up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Morepork said: Hard to disagree with any of that. I for one will be unable to move on from that with DC at the helm. Untenable IMO. Although that doesn't mean he'd sell up..... Think we are stuck with Chansiri like Mike Ashley at Newcastle when his relationship with the fans went a bit sour. For Chansiri to sell up he would have to take a massive financial hit something I doubt he would be prepared to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, EcclesallOwl said: The article suggests it will last for the rest of the week 7 hours ago, EcclesallOwl said: From the article: “Wednesday's battle with the EFL over charges of breaching Profitability & Sustainability rules is being heard by an independent disciplinary commission this week, after the dispute was brought forward following complaints from a number of rival clubs.” Neil hasn`t actually bothered reading the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, mcmigo said: As I have said before, we get usually start the decade by being relegated. 1970 1990 2000 2010 Looks like we are heading that way again. I still think if it is anything less than 15 points we will dig in and stay up . anything more will me trouble at the mill. That`s the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Think we are stuck with Chansiri like Mike Ashley at Newcastle (but without the business sense....) when his relationship with the fans went a bit sour. For Chansiri to sell up he would have to take a massive financial hit something I doubt he would be prepared to do. Unfortunately I have to agree, although I've tweaked it slightly..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Think we are stuck with Chansiri like Mike Ashley at Newcastle when his relationship with the fans went a bit sour. For Chansiri to sell up he would have to take a massive financial hit something I doubt he would be prepared to do. He’s losing money hand over fist, must come a point when cutting his losses Is the only realistic option. I can’t believe he can support us much longer through his own personal wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Look at the advantages... If we get chucked out of the league, Saturdays will become stress free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said: I'd take that now. Unless of course we are innocent of all charges as Mr C seems to think we are. We must have a decent chance i wouodnt imagine that di marco bloke would go this far if we didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Can’t DC just say ‘no comment’ all way through it and get off with a £65 fine like them scalllies do on Channel 5’s Police Interceptors. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 First argument will be about the undue influence from 3rd parties to bring forward the case from the intended start date Let's be honest the next few days are a sham and they have already made up their mind we are guilty Basically a show trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I'm glad the chairman is supporting the club at present 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Take heart The EFL have lost recently to Stevenage and Birmingham, and been forced to withdraw their charges against Chansiri and his management team This isn't a foregone conclusion. Let's set aside the Doomsday predictions and cross our fingers for a good outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: Take heart The EFL have lost recently to Stevenage and Birmingham, and been forced to withdraw their charges against Chansiri and his management team This isn't a foregone conclusion. Let's set aside the Doomsday predictions and cross our fingers for a good outcome I really want us to win this case to just shove two fingers at Gibson and watch them go down - would be amazing for us to do it in the final game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Owl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, bladeshater said: I'm glad the chairman is supporting the club at present It's his fault we're in this mess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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