BARMYARMY2010 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Maybe way off the mark here. But isnt the fact that we contested our punishment and it got sent off to a different body to set the punishment the reason for our delay and why we may wiggle out of it this season. As they cant do the process in the same way they are legally meant to. Is this case the same as ours? Do it go through the same legal channels.? I dont know the answer just putting out a possible reason ours could be different as the EFL are not actually the ones that decide our punishment. We contested with the EFL, it's the EFL's arbitration panel who decide punishment if any, there was never any different body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: We contested with the EFL, it's the EFL's arbitration panel who decide punishment if any, there was never any different body. Am I right in thinking that the EFL can contest the decision from the arbitration panel though if they dont like it. So it is different if you see what I am saying it's not done by them. The EFL aren't deciding our punishment is what I am trying to get at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah a few in recent days suggesting the rules would change, and the charges would drop because of Covid19 and what's going on, or that there would be some kind of softer punishment as they couldn't' be seen to be punishing clubs during this terrible time. Weird. It sounds like wishful thinking at best. I really can't see a link between the EFL cases and the coronavirus pandemic. If they can throw the book at us, I'm sure they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Am I right in thinking that the EFL can contest the decision from the arbitration panel though if they dont like it. So it is different if you see what I am saying it's not done by them. The EFL aren't deciding our punishment is what I am trying to get at. They weren't happy with the panels decision on Birmingham, so yes they can and did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Has anyone been allowed to criticise the journalist quoted in the op or do we have to accept Macclesfield sounds a bit like Plymouth 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, 0114 said: Brutal from The EFL. 7 points on top of a club that’s already received 4 points deduction already. Pretty much relegated them. Yep, the EFL stand there and let the premier league send clubs down to the championship with failure payments and do nothing to stop it, yet hammer small clubs. They are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 It's looking more and more likely efl fixtures won't be completed unlike Premier League so if there's no promotion and relegation let em deduct as many points as they like for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah a few in recent days suggesting the rules would change, and the charges would drop because of Covid19 and what's going on, or that there would be some kind of softer punishment as they couldn't' be seen to be punishing clubs during this terrible time. Given the financial implications of Covid, I can’t see clubs getting huge fines. So, a hefty points deductions could be the order of the day. Which actually could be more damaging to us, considering how threadbare our squad will look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, rickygoo said: We delayed them with our legal action trying to stop it in its tracks. How dare we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 hours ago, @owlstalk said: And there we have it For anyone thinking Wednesday will get off simply because of Covid-19 or that people might go easy on us because of it think again If the season is cancelled, a points deduction will have zero effect anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Utah Owl said: If the season is cancelled, a points deduction will have zero effect anyway. Unless it gets carried over of course Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Royal_D said: How dare we Perfectly entitled to but if people moan about delays that partly explains it. That’s the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Unless it gets carried over of course The EFL are going to be in huge trouble anyway. Clubs who are still in with a chance of promotion or avoiding relegation are almost certain to take legal action if they try to keep promotion and relegation on basis of current league position. Only sensible way out is new season on basis of "as is" at moment. To then be dishing out point deductions would antagonise numerous clubs and involve further legal action in the High Court. The clubs may be broke, but their owners certainly aren't and the EFL cannot survive financially if they come under attack on numerous fronts. There will have to be a compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just t clarify, I think that the football authorities are screwed on this regardless of what happens. Parties are going to be upset and I can see a whole plethora of legal cases based on clubs denied promotion etc. etc. Can't wait, popcorn and coke at the ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mort AMB Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 = 10 hours ago, @owlstalk said: My cheese sandwich won't fill me up if I get run over by a lorry Well it wont if you're unwrapping it while crossing the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) EFL is gonna implode, clubs will be lining up to take court action against them Beginning of the end for the EFL as a governing body this, also I hope the 7 Macclesfield just got hit for was down to the fact they didn’t pay wages and not just solely for not fulfilling a fixture because Bolton only got suspended deduction for that Edited May 7, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Fart all chance of this season being finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I bet the EFL are praying someone makes a decision ( government or EPL ) first so they don’t have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benitocarbonara Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 serious question how do come to an amount if points? why 7 why not 5? if they were pushing for promotion and the deduction amount took them out playoffs i sort of get how they get to a figure? if that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 12:00, 0114 said: Brutal from The EFL. 7 points on top of a club that’s already received 4 points deduction already. Pretty much relegated them. Nothing like a kicking when you are down. Understand why clubs are looking at breaking away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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