Ellis Rimmer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, SiJ said: Racist abuse at Rudiger. English football has a real an issue right now. How can it have a real issue if it makes national news if a player gets racially abused compared to it being common place in other nations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Varsical that they go to review whether the foul on Dele Alli occurred in the penalty area or not. Decide it is outside and give the free-kick. Had it been inside the box then the penalty would not have been given as Alli was offside. So they know he was offside but they still stick with the free-kick for the foul and it would have been a goal if the free-kick had been scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Chelsea have been very good today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: How can it have a real issue if it makes national news if a player gets racially abused compared to it being common place in other nations? Right... Numerous instances of it happening over the last few months. I don't see how it being reported in the national news makes it not a real issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, SiJ said: Right... Numerous instances of it happening over the last few months. I don't see how it being reported in the national news makes it not a real issue. It shows that it is being treated very seriously but is not suggestive we have a huge issue in this country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Anyway... Chelsea were class today. Spurs still have much to work on. Seems like a team which could do with a bit of shaking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Spurs Fans had 3 warnings for racist behaviour /language today. The protocol was implemented they say. Utter vermin, pinpoint who they were and ban em, there's cameras everywhere so they'll be able to do it. 2019 and we're still having this discussion, I could weep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Gary, souness and Cole making some good points. Git it Out... just t-shirts for a warm up, a photo, then get on with training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Surely time for OGS to go now. This is getting embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Man Utd used to send the reserves to places like Watford and give them a hiding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Watford have got some good players - can't see them going down I think they'll win on boxing do too - which is handy as they're at pig lane But Man U...dear me What an extremely mediocre side they have become - i mean like Newcastle Couple of top players and the rest just premier makeweights - that today was just unacceptable - every team has an off day but that was nowhere near the level of an off day That was utter tripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The worst thing about this Man U side is the lack of fight and effort against the so-called lesser teams. They turn up against Man City and yet they can't seemingly be bothered to put a shift in against Shef U, Watford and so forth. Would never have happened under Fergie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Gary Neville gets completely undermined by Dave Jones when making a statement on racist abuse - jesus. Absolute hypocrites at the FA wanting the book thrown at the Bulgariansm, but not wanting to tackle the problem that exists here. We're getting a throwback to the absolute fuckwits that existed in the 70's and early 80's in the grounds again, it's got to be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Varsical that they go to review whether the foul on Dele Alli occurred in the penalty area or not. Decide it is outside and give the free-kick. Had it been inside the box then the penalty would not have been given as Alli was offside. So they know he was offside but they still stick with the free-kick for the foul and it would have been a goal if the free-kick had been scored. I think there is still work to be done on VAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said: Gary Neville gets completely undermined by Dave Jones when making a statement on racist abuse - jesus. Absolute hypocrites at the FA wanting the book thrown at the Bulgariansm, but not wanting to tackle the problem that exists here. We're getting a throwback to the absolute fuckwits that existed in the 70's and early 80's in the grounds again, it's got to be stopped. Tbf to Jones, I'd imagine that was some knobhead producer in his earpiece telling him to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, SiJ said: Tbf to Jones, I'd imagine that was some knobhead producer in his earpiece telling him to say that. Absolutely. But it was DJ then not responding to GN's comment of 'do you not agree with me Dave?'. It came across badly. Neville's on the right track with getting the player's to walk off, I think that's also got to be backed with fans calling out individuals in the crowd when anything is said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The worst thing for Man Utd is all their tourist fans will be furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said: Absolutely. But it was DJ then not responding to GN's comment of 'do you not agree with me Dave?'. It came across badly. Neville's on the right track with getting the player's to walk off, I think that's also got to be backed with fans calling out individuals in the crowd when anything is said. Yeah, it was really awkward. I think Jones is a good presenter for the most part and it was a good debate. As Neville said, something drastic needs to happen. Players need to walk off that pitch and say enough is enough. As it is, I can't see how things are going to change tbh. Someone might get caught, hit with a lifetime ban, but you know full well they'll be another idiot saying something in a few weeks time. It is more than just football though - this is to do with society as whole. Think social media also plays a huge part. On Twitter, Facebook people will post racist abuse and more often than not they'll be no real consequences (they might have their account deleted). Slowly but surely, you've got to believe that lack of consequence will start to manifest itself more and more in everyday life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Neville absolutely nailed that weak spineless nobody in the studio It was insightful, reflective and introspective - whilst admitting his own shortcomings in the past Well said Gary - we cannot point fingers everywhere else if we tolerate it in our own country 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, scram said: Neville absolutely nailed that weak spineless nobody in the studio It was insightful, reflective and introspective - whilst admitting his own shortcomings in the past Well said Gary - we cannot point fingers everywhere else if we tolerate it in our own country I argued that point on this forum after the Bulgaria incident. Got shouted down. Since that game, there has been incidents of racism every other week. Brexit is a huge part in this. It’s given idiots the opportunity to spill their racist views into football. It is not an issue in football, it’s a problem in society which is leaking into the stands. Britain is in a really bad place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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