shezzas left peg Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 16 hours ago, cowl said: He's hardly played for us in these last 13 months and that's mostly been due to injury, so he's not had the best of luck. Still, he struggled in his first 3 or 4 months playing with us, but wasn't really helped by being thrown straight in at the deep end, while Venâncio continued to be overlooked by CC. Could coaching improve his defects? I'll not hold my breath, but I'd be happy for him to be given another crack at it. I'd love him to come good here, god knows we need him to. I just think he's a big lad yes, but seemed slow to notice what's happening in front of him and physically incredibly cumbersome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Hack-Abusi said: MASSIVE loss to us if you ask me personally. After only a couple of games watching him you could see he's an excellent defender and for me, this guy should have been signed and made captain. Very capable player and would have been a massive asset for us. Instead its a right utter f*ck up by CC and DC .. shambolic. I couldn't agree more. The fact that Venancio was left on the sidelines by CC was bizarre, especially as it was evident to everyone that Van Aken couldn't do the basics. Venancio available for 800k too. Bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, BRADDO said: I couldn't agree more. The fact that Venancio was left on the sidelines by CC was bizarre, especially as it was evident to everyone that Van Aken couldn't do the basics. Venancio available for 800k too. Bonkers. Even at £1.8m the bloke was a bargain .. the fact we had nothing in place and agreed was shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Hack-Abusi said: Even at £1.8m the bloke was a bargain .. the fact we had nothing in place and agreed was shocking Or maybe we did and couldn't do it due to the embargo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 What gets me with the whole van Aken thing was we signed him to be first choice. That's fsir enough. Yet we had a capable CB already at the club, better than both JvA and Venancio, yet we let him go because we didn't offer him the first team football he wanted. Absolutely mental decision that was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 22 hours ago, briggowl said: Reading between the lines, Van Aken's wage is mind bogglingly high and no-one would even come close to matching it for a none proven Championship defender. Like all of our players, no-one is going anywhere unless a club is desperate or a bit stupid, or they're out of contract. You make it sound as though our team is full of League Two rejects on £60k a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: What gets me with the whole van Aken thing was we signed him to be first choice. That's fsir enough. Yet we had a capable CB already at the club, better than both JvA and Venancio, yet we let him go because we didn't offer him the first team football he wanted. Absolutely mental decision that was. Who was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 22 hours ago, briggowl said: Reading between the lines, Van Aken's wage is mind bogglingly high and no-one would even come close to matching it for a none proven Championship defender. Like all of our players, no-one is going anywhere unless a club is desperate or a bit stupid, or they're out of contract. how many 'bit stupid' clubs are still around? not counting the obvious one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 He's crap. He's one of many players we really need to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 We all conveniently forget ONE thing when we're talking about buying and selling players - it is a market!!!!, There may be many players on our books that we would like to sell. BUT is there anyone likely to want to buy and at what price.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Who was that? Sasso. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Sasso. Shout! How could I forget Sasso? I was racking my brain and could only think of Loovens - and it was the right time for him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 28/01/2019 at 13:41, briggowl said: Reading between the lines, Van Aken's wage is mind bogglingly high and no-one would even come close to matching it for a none proven Championship defender. Like all of our players, no-one is going anywhere unless a club is desperate or a bit stupid, or they're out of contract. Another club like us you mean? Lol. I think we should try him at defensive midfielder. That's where he started wasn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Shout! How could I forget Sasso? I was racking my brain and could only think of Loovens - and it was the right time for him to leave. Yeah Sasso was decent tbf, if he'd still been here and had these extra few years in English football I think he'd be really good by now. Edited January 29, 2019 by LiamAP22D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: What gets me with the whole van Aken thing was we signed him to be first choice. That's fsir enough. Yet we had a capable CB already at the club, better than both JvA and Venancio, yet we let him go because we didn't offer him the first team football he wanted. Absolutely mental decision that was. We really boobed there,and he was free as well,we never offered the kid a contract,he loved it here.Cheers Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 28/01/2019 at 13:41, briggowl said: Reading between the lines, Van Aken's wage is mind bogglingly high and no-one would even come close to matching it for a none proven Championship defender. Like all of our players, no-one is going anywhere unless a club is desperate or a bit stupid, or they're out of contract. Don’t forget that a club can agree to play part of a loan players wages. Would make sense for him to go out. He gets to play regularly and put himself in the shop window. We get to save on wages and bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 23 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Football Manager is about the depth of some posters football knowledge on here...it has a lot to fokkin' answer for What's you're credentials? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 hours ago, legendaryswan said: We really boobed there,and he was free as well,we never offered the kid a contract,he loved it here.Cheers Carlos We offered him one but he turned it down due to us not offering him more first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 29/01/2019 at 23:35, Birley Owl 1867 said: We offered him one but he turned it down due to us not offering him more first team football. In the modern game and squad rotation few are guaranteed 1st team football these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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