legendaryswan Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Were only one good transfer window away from the prem. Weve got to be smarter in recruitment & in the sale of players,ie LONG before their contracts run down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeOwl Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 After tonight, I'm not really bothered. If that's what the prem does to your club and fanbase then we'll probably be better without it for a while. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, flo said: I agree that an NFL draft system would be cool, but it only takes one season for fortunes to change and you have a chance of promotion. Im in favour of this in oricipal but where would the young players come from? The clubs would scrap their academies if this was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_owl Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Yes we are a long way off Chelsea. However, there are 2/3rds of the PL that could get turned over 3-0 like we did. So really don't think we are 10yrs off PL but potentially that far off playing inEurope unless DC absolutely throws money at it if we get to the PL. It didn't take long for Chelski to start winning things once Abrhamovic took over. Edited January 27, 2019 by Tank_owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Chelsea do that to teams that have been in the Premier League for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The Premier league , in my opinion want a closed shop with no relegation or promotion. The championship has gone boobies up because of Parachute payments . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: The Premier league , in my opinion want a closed shop with no relegation or promotion. The championship has gone boobies up because of Parachute payments . That would just make the league more boring than it already is. Something needs to come to a head soon, because the status quo is not sustainable. The FA as guardians of the English game are not fit for purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, owls maniac said: That would just make the league more boring than it already is. Something needs to come to a head soon, because the status quo is not sustainable. The FA as guardians of the English game are not fit for purpose. Couldnt agree more mate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, legendaryswan said: Were only one good transfer window away from the prem. Weve got to be smarter in recruitment & in the sale of players,ie LONG before their contracts run down This. I think it's more than one good transfer window, but along these lines. Talk of a decade is ridiculous, when you consider how much stronger our squad could be today had we been smarter with our transfer policy over the past three seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Naive... when we finally do return to the premiership the squad will improved. You don’t just sit on your hands or the pot of gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, bobness said: This. I think it's more than one good transfer window, but along these lines. Talk of a decade is ridiculous, when you consider how much stronger our squad could be today had we been smarter with our transfer policy over the past three seasons. When DC took over P&S rules were not around. They are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, sheffield_dave said: An American sports system wouldn’t work unless you restructured the entire game and closed it off to the rest of world football. The NHL and NFL are closed shops and the way the college system feeds players into them isnt realistic for football. As for our Premier League aspirations? Chelsea are a super club. There are another 5 like them. Nobody else matters. Everyone else is disposable. The rest of the league is garbage and a waste of time. Only 7 teams in the league have a goal difference over 0 and more than half the division is competing every year only for the sake of still being there. That should give every team in the Championship hope that they can go up and stay up, while also raising the question why should anybody bother or care. Sheffield_dave, you are infinitely correct. I could write a page on the politics of the NFL, the Draft, the Salary Cap (this is what English Football needs) and so on. Yes, Chelsea is a super club, for now, but the composition of the various "tiers" does change, by Law, 3-up, 3-down. Yes, money does matter, always has, read some of the prices paid for Roman Gladiator's, they're probably not exaggerated, and nothing has changed in the world of Sports, money buys the best competitors, period. An Americian-style Salary-Cap, would be very relevant to English Football, it takes the wind right out of the sails of the Clubs looking to buy a trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) You would need not close off the rest of the world. The top four divisional winners qualify for the champions league. It would reduce fixture congestion. Particularly key now when revenue is generated from TV more so than gate revenue. Interest would be generated for the top 4 teams chasing the divisional title / champs league qualification. A superbowl ending to the season would be huge. FA Cup can continue and the League Cup could also. Champs League would continue as always. Right now we have 20 teams where 5 count and the rest make up the numbers. If the draft system doesnt work, then dont do it. But we need to rid this monopoly. It is killing football. Edited January 28, 2019 by MysticOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumbullowl Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 We're not a small club. We're the biggest club in the sixth biggest city in the country. And yet our revenue is about 1/25 that of Chelsea. How the hell can we compete? The difference in money between the PL and EFL is a cancer that is killing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) As much as it is unlikely...what it creates is a safer environment for clubs to exist without being strangled by finances for not being in the PL. The PL is pushing up wages through the EFL. So going on where current teams are in the league system....this is how a 4 league system would look. 3 teams each season to go down. But overall you are keeping 48 clubs within a safer league structure. Edited January 28, 2019 by MysticOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, MysticOwl said: You would need not close off the rest of the world. The top four divisional winners qualify for the champions league. It would reduce fixture congestion. Particularly key now when revenue is generated from TV more so than gate revenue. Interest would be generated for the top 4 teams chasing the divisional title / champs league qualification. A superbowl ending to the season would be huge. FA Cup can continue and the League Cup could also. Champs League would continue as always. Right now we have 20 teams where 5 count and the rest make up the numbers. If the draft system doesnt work, then dont do it. But we need to rid this monopoly. It is killing football. "A superbowl ending to the season would be huge." It's already in place, the FA Cup, is in every sense of the word an American Super-Bowl, but it's better because everybody plays everybody, Luton Town could well have played against Chelsea today, in America, we love the FA Cup, because everybody gets equality of opportunity, it's a formal duel, regardless of the social status of the duelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neon Nick said: "A superbowl ending to the season would be huge." It's already in place, the FA Cup, is in every sense of the word an American Super-Bowl, but it's better because everybody plays everybody, Luton Town could well have played against Chelsea today, in America, we love the FA Cup, because everybody gets equality of opportunity, it's a formal duel, regardless of the social status of the duelers. The FA Cup is 5 games and your in the final. Dominated by a few teams with the most money and biggest squads. The superbowl starts with the league, then into the play offs and then into the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, MysticOwl said: The FA Cup is 5 games and your in the final. Dominated by a few teams with the most money and biggest squads. The superbowl starts with the league, then into the play offs and then into the final. The Superbowl starts with the League, of which we have two, the AFC and the NFC, the American & National Football Conference's, respectively, the old NFL and AFL, used to be called the AFL, American Football League, and the National Football League, when I was a kid (born in 1958.) Big money contaminated the modern day NFL, long before it did the same to English football. Hence the Salary Cap, in the NFL. No matter how much money you have, you can only spend so much on Player salaries. This is the ONLY thing about American football structure that would take the wind out of the sails of the big-money Clubs in England. It doesn't matter whence the money, you can write a personal check, but you cannot spend to your whims Forget the Superbowl, but think about a salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 hours ago, sheffield_dave said: An American sports system wouldn’t work unless you restructured the entire game and closed it off to the rest of world football. The NHL and NFL are closed shops and the way the college system feeds players into them isnt realistic for football. As for our Premier League aspirations? Chelsea are a super club. There are another 5 like them. Nobody else matters. Everyone else is disposable. The rest of the league is garbage and a waste of time. Only 7 teams in the league have a goal difference over 0 and more than half the division is competing every year only for the sake of still being there. That should give every team in the Championship hope that they can go up and stay up, while also raising the question why should anybody bother or care. Exactly. Not that it will happen under chansiris ownership , but what would goimg up achieve ? Battling to stay up or if we are really lucky , battling for 14th with Southampton , Newcastle and Burnley . I hate modern football , the sooner it goes bust or the big teams break away , the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Or alternatively, we could have just actually attempted to win the game, like Millwall, Wimbledon, Shrewsbury etc, but. we didn't because agnew is godawful and the English Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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