Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 13 hours ago, handworth52 said: no1s ever been on that here . Rhodes was our biggest earner rumoured to be on 40k a week He was on a lot more than that at Blackburn Rovers and Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Not long till we find out how KL is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki_San Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Out for at least 3 weeks then. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 16 hours ago, bradowl said: Didn't he have a serious knee injury before his serious hip injury? I'm sure he was out for a while with his knee, a photo of his leg appeared on here. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 8 hours ago, vulva said: Fading memory is brilliant. Did you sit through the Gray football era? Yes. Did a commendable job molding some real nonentities into a midtable side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I am buoyed by the fact that this is a knee niggle, hope springs eternal that he returns sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Yes. Did a commendable job molding some real nonentities into a midtable side. Nice chap Gray, but despite his apparent managerial genius, he’s a number 2. Bit like Irvine. My abiding memory of Gray is a stupid substitution 1 minute after we scored in the FACup v Charlton. Cost us the game and. QF v United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, vulva said: Nice chap Gray, but despite his apparent managerial genius, he’s a number 2. Bit like Irvine. My abiding memory of Gray is a stupid substitution 1 minute after we scored in the FACup v Charlton. Cost us the game and. QF v United. Still not as bad as my abiding memory of Irvine; failing to beat 9 men Yeovil in League One. Dark, dark days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Times like this I wish we took up the option to sign Jacob Butterfield. Said no one ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 22 hours ago, torryowl said: well if that's the case then your vitriol should be directed at chansiri ….if a player is crap and keeps getting played that's down to the manager so it must follow that if a manager is crap and keeps his job then that's down to the owner who employs him . …..there's only one man who's responsible for the position we find ourselves in and it aint carlos . I can assure u carlos is a huge reason the club is in the mess its in regards total wasted funds .carlos says to chansiri sign me jones abdi fox boyd the list totals over 20 inc loans what chansiri did was trust carlos's judement ,regards there wages, contract length well thats where chansiri takes some blame but again more poor advise he recieved ,remember he admits to knowing nothing about football he had to trust the advise he was given .even i could have done a better job ,straight away id have said why are u signing all these ageing players? And are u serious giving jones a 3 year deal ,i think most kids would know that was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 20 hours ago, Andoverowl said: He was on a lot more than that at Blackburn Rovers and Boro. I read somewhere that he was on 60k at boro , but aparantly chansiri showed some at a steering meeting what our players earn and im sure i read our top earner was on about 40k a week that surprised me as why would rhodes take a pay cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, handworth52 said: I can assure u carlos is a huge reason the club is in the mess its in regards total wasted funds .carlos says to chansiri sign me jones abdi fox boyd the list totals over 20 inc loans what chansiri did was trust carlos's judement ,regards there wages, contract length well thats where chansiri takes some blame but again more poor advise he recieved ,remember he admits to knowing nothing about football he had to trust the advise he was given .even i could have done a better job ,straight away id have said why are u signing all these ageing players? And are u serious giving jones a 3 year deal ,i think most kids would know that was stupid. chansiri signed the players wrote the cheques agreed the contracts ...….he was the one who got his advisors to get him a head coach that couldn't quite deliver what he wanted …...he was the one that set up a committee to find the head coach players ( see the steering group report nov 2016)….he was the one who implored carlos to stay after the hudders debacle …...everything in the running of the club is down to him .it must be as he's the sole owner. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, handworth52 said: I read somewhere that he was on 60k at boro , but aparantly chansiri showed some at a steering meeting what our players earn and im sure i read our top earner was on about 40k a week that surprised me as why would rhodes take a pay cut? Especially when it's much as £20k a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 2 hours ago, torryowl said: chansiri signed the players wrote the cheques agreed the contracts ...….he was the one who got his advisors to get him a head coach that couldn't quite deliver what he wanted …...he was the one that set up a committee to find the head coach players ( see the steering group report nov 2016)….he was the one who implored carlos to stay after the hudders debacle …...everything in the running of the club is down to him .it must be as he's the sole owner. . don't think im taking any blame away from chansiri he is getting so much wrong at our club its unreal , but he came with a bag of money but knew absolutely nothing about football and the football business he had to trust advisers and his manager where an experienced owner like mandaric wouldn't have made any of these mistakes which is going to effect our club for quite some time to come ,I don't think too much blame should be given to the committee as there where the ones who got us hooper,wallace,bannan ,forestieri,hunt,wallace,joao. and only 1-2 letdowns ie Lachman, sougou . it was when carlos was given full control jan 2016 when the problems started with very poor recruitment . a more experienced owner would have let carlos go after those awful playoffs but even then most of the damage had been done by then off the pitch ,regards having a huge amount of ageing pros or injury prone crocks on long term deals . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, handworth52 said: I read somewhere that he was on 60k at boro , but aparantly chansiri showed some at a steering meeting what our players earn and im sure i read our top earner was on about 40k a week that surprised me as why would rhodes take a pay cut? It's almost as if he wanted to play first team football, for a club he supports, where his dad coached, in the league below his current team... Edited September 14, 2018 by Minton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 12/09/2018 at 22:03, @owlstalk said: I reckon even Alan Irvine could have got us promoted with the budget and squad that Carlos had I give more credence to that argument if our budget was in the top 6 for the division at the time. I'll give you a clue, it wasn't. Even Donald Trump wouldn't have the audacity to say he didn't outperform his budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 8 hours ago, handworth52 said: don't think im taking any blame away from chansiri he is getting so much wrong at our club its unreal , but he came with a bag of money but knew absolutely nothing about football and the football business he had to trust advisers and his manager where an experienced owner like mandaric wouldn't have made any of these mistakes which is going to effect our club for quite some time to come ,I don't think too much blame should be given to the committee as there where the ones who got us hooper,wallace,bannan ,forestieri,hunt,wallace,joao. and only 1-2 letdowns ie Lachman, sougou . it was when carlos was given full control jan 2016 when the problems started with very poor recruitment . a more experienced owner would have let carlos go after those awful playoffs but even then most of the damage had been done by then off the pitch ,regards having a huge amount of ageing pros or injury prone crocks on long term deals . why do you disregard what chansiri said in front of the steering committee last year ….." carlos says what position he wants strengthening and the committee draw up a list of names who are available and he goes from the list"...……..you seem to have some sort of fixation that the good players are signed by the committee and the crap ones by carlos …..I don't dispute that carlos had the final say on who we signed but that is totally different from signing who he wanted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, torryowl said: why do you disregard what chansiri said in front of the steering committee last year ….." carlos says what position he wants strengthening and the committee draw up a list of names who are available and he goes from the list"...……..you seem to have some sort of fixation that the good players are signed by the committee and the crap ones by carlos …..I don't dispute that carlos had the final say on who we signed but that is totally different from signing who he wanted . well the committee was disbanded around 4 months after carlos joined us ,so the committee had no input into jan 2016 and onwards signings, doyen yes ,and all the rest of the sharks what saw us as fools but it was carlos who made the final decision . if carlos was such a good manager why has he had 17 managerial jobs and got sacked from the lot of them,surely its some kind of European record? the man oozes charm and that's why he has managed to get so many jobs over the years despite his appalling record . im gona leave this argument alone now its been done to death . lets hope in time we will be competitive again in the transfer market but get in 90% right not 90% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Minton said: It's almost as if he wanted to play first team football, for a club he supports, where his dad coached, in the league below his current team... He didn't take that much of a pay cut to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Andoverowl said: He didn't take that much of a pay cut to come here. He didn't take any pay cuts ..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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