coreyswfc Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Still not official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, S9_OWL said: it don't take a rocket scientist does it. No it takes a clairvoyant/mindreader/employee of GCHQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S9_OWL Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Read the thread, and you will see why that's been thrown into the equation. I haven't got time to read 30 pages, can you not just answer the question? And if you want to talk pricing, there is a line, but that line also works both ways. For instance I'm sure if we charged £50 a season ticket, we would get more fans, but would lose £££ a week. If we increase prices we have more money to invest, but some fans would no longer be able to attend. Its a fine balancing act, and im sure if we increase prices futher people will have this debate again. But I don't see how that's relevant to offering a refund to the ones who wish to jump ship when the going gets tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Talk me through how you know these people are one and the same. Yeah - that is a baseless and unhelpful assumption. A couple of seemingly rational and decent posters have shared their musings about taking Chansiri up on his offer without resorting to abuse, and there's no reason to assume that those who have asked for, or go on to take, a refund have been abusing the chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark77 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm with the chairman on this. He responded to a small minority requesting refunds. You can't expect to turn up to 11/12 games at a vastly reduced rate and then bail out of the remaining 11/12 with a refund. The club have budgeted that money (spent it). Then to turn up 12 months later and buy another and possibly do the same again isn't a viable business model and sets a dangerous precedent. You pay to watch 23 games of Championship football, not 23 wins. I've seen comments that he's treating loyal supporters badly. They are hardly loyal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I've no idea how many initially applied for a refund or how many will still want a refund having seen the conditions. But he did offer one. So now, he will have pisssed off the undecided and further pisssed off the ones who go ahead and probably a good many unaffected. This will go against him when more unpopular decisions are made, it will be added to the list. Why didn't he just say, here's your dosh we are sorry you are unhappy with the teams performance this season. Please be assured this is not due to lack of effort...blah blah blah. We will always strive to gain the success, that I, and my staff are working to achieve but most of all to give the wonderful supporters of Sheffield Wednesday...blah blah. You are of course welcome back at any time. But in the meantime you will be at the back of the queue for cup final and play-off tickets. Errr, don't think I want a refund now... We are where we are but wtf didn't he keep his gob shut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: I've no idea how many initially applied for a refund or how many will still want a refund having seen the conditions. But he did offer one. So now, he will have pisssed off the undecided and further pisssed off the ones who go ahead and probably a good many unaffected. This will go against him when more unpopular decisions are made, it will be added to the list. Why didn't he just say, here's your dosh we are sorry you are unhappy with the teams performance this season. Please be assured this is not due to lack of effort...blah blah blah. We will always strive to gain the success, that I, and my staff are working to achieve but most of all to give the wonderful supporters of Sheffield Wednesday...blah blah. You are of course welcome back at any time. But in the meantime you will be at the back of the queue for cup final and play-off tickets. Errr, don't think I want a refund now... We are where we are but wtf didn't he keep his gob shut He didn’t need to say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S9_OWL Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 So all these fans asking for refunds have either fell on hard times, or are suffering health problems etc? If that was the case why didn't he offer this last season, or the season before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: He OFFERED the money back! No-one was fussed about asking for it............ He offered because he was asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryPlopper Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 At the start of this season fans had to email in and put themselves on a waiting list to get season tickets. Ploy or not, the aim was to get people wanting into the season ticket ethos. Why should those of us who go through thin and thin, with the odd smattering of hope in between not get the rewards? No doubt in future seasons, season tickets will be limited too should demand surge again as has been shown can be the case with some decent football on offer. If demand surges, those who give up a season ticket now will kick themselves, but the club quite rightly wants and needs true fans to rely on, because without those of us that will buy in regardless, the business model fails - whether you call us customers, fans or whatever. I don't agree with offering refunds, but it will have the desired effect, just like putting a perceived limit on season tickets to garner a sense of demand and limited availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S9_OWL Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, southportdc said: He offered because he was asked. Exactamundo! Edited January 9, 2018 by S9_OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I don’t think anybody who takes up the refund offer will do it because we’ve lost a few matches but rather in protest at the poor way the club is being run. This ridiculous refund offer just being the latest in a long list of poor management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, southportdc said: He offered because he was asked. Does he make an offer to everyone on anything anyone ever asks him for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S9_OWL Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, kingsidney said: I don’t think anybody who takes up the refund offer will do it because we’ve lost a few matches but rather in protest at the poor way the club is being run. This ridiculous refund offer just being the latest in a long list of poor management. I just don't get this long list of poor management. People chose to purchase a season ticket at the start of the season. Since then he has messed up the kits (fair does I agree it was a complete embarrssment but would it stop me going?), and appointed a CEO who hasn't even been given a chance to do anything wrong? Are people already forgetting all the good things aswel? The guy is new to football atleast be fair. Edited January 9, 2018 by S9_OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, S9_OWL said: I just don't get this long list of poor management. People chose to purchase a season ticket at the start of the season. Since then he has messed up the kits (fair does I agree it was a complete embarrssment but would it stop me going?), and appointed a CEO who hasn't even been given a chance to do anything wrong? Are people already forgetting all the good things aswel? The guy is new to football atleast be fair. He’s owned a football club for nearly 3 years now. If I hadn’t gotten to grips with my job in that time I’d be long since sacked. And his fizz ups extend well beyond those you’ve listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, southportdc said: He offered because he was asked. Oh behave mate We all know how spurious a football fan wanting his money back is Me Chansiri has played on it Then taken it a step further when it should have been simply ignored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, rob chester said: Weird goings on I just hope the new gaffer can turn things around, because the poo performances have shone a light on a lot of things going wrong at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, owls maniac said: He’s owned a football club for nearly 3 years now. If I hadn’t gotten to grips with my job in that time I’d be long since sacked. And his fizz ups extend well beyond those you’ve listed. Go on then. I'll list the good and you do the bad: Good: New Desso pitch New Scoreboard New Video advertising boards New training ground pitches Tens of millions spent on players Best players signed to big contracts Offered 3 year season tickets 150th anniversary fireworks 150th anniversary dinner Now you go. 1 Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Go on then. I'll list the good and you do the bad: Good: New Desso pitch New Scoreboard New Video advertising boards New training ground pitches Tens of millions spent on players Best players signed to big contracts Offered 3 year season tickets 150th anniversary fireworks 150th anniversary dinner Now you go. those advertising boards come under good ?....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Go on then. I'll list the good and you do the bad: Good: New Desso pitch New Scoreboard New Video advertising boards New training ground pitches Tens of millions spent on players Best players signed to big contracts Offered 3 year season tickets 150th anniversary fireworks 150th anniversary dinner Now you go. Tens of millions spent on players worse than what we already had come under good? aging players on overly long contracts seeing out their playing days come under good? Edited January 9, 2018 by kingsidney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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