Pale Rider Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I actually think Lee is Carlos’s biggest success at SWFC. He turned a neat and tidy mainly defensive midfield player into an all energy box to box man and improved his goal threat. Now it maybe Kieran progressed naturally but people don’t speak that way when talking about Pep and Stirling so we have to credit Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Sorry but as much as I think Carlos is useless and the club is a joke , the fact Hutchinson is a crock and lee is now had it is nowt to do with any of that . lee has his hip done around 2014 ish it’s obvioaily come back and won’t heal . Sad to say I think he’s done . hutchinson should never have been re signed on anyway . Whatever he’s on should have been put elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Child-bearing hips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 11 hours ago, Bodhidharma said: All because Carlos wanted to save his own skin at the end of last season. Our best player ruined. Worst manager in our history. You must have been watching us about 5 years if you think Carlos is worst manager in our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 49 minutes ago, bradowl said: You must have been watching us about 5 years if you think Carlos is worst manager in our history. Managers 5 years ago didnt splosh about 30 mill on new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 15 hours ago, ANDY said: "But at the last moment of training, he jumped and felt a very strong. He was very bad at that moment and the physios took care of him." “After one or two hours, he was better and we felt he would probably recover to play on Friday. But when he woke up on Friday, he felt very bad again so he couldn’t play." Heard better from people phoning into the office putting on a fake cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 6 hours ago, james o connor said: Sorry but as much as I think Carlos is useless and the club is a joke , the fact Hutchinson is a crock and lee is now had it is nowt to do with any of that . lee has his hip done around 2014 ish it’s obvioaily come back and won’t heal . Sad to say I think he’s done . hutchinson should never have been re signed on anyway . Whatever he’s on should have been put elsewhere sorry but that's not true the hip operation he had before was the other side, he was out a few months and came back fully healed and no problems with it since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tudders Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 14 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Rushed back. Now suffering. Heads should roll for this. I wonder if being rushed back too soon is what’s caused the alleged fall out between Hutch and CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tudders Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: sorry but that's not true the hip operation he had before was the other side, he was out a few months and came back fully healed and no problems with it since Was he rushed back before being ready and his other side was compensating and under extra strain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 43 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: sorry but that's not true the hip operation he had before was the other side, he was out a few months and came back fully healed and no problems with it since So you are telling me somebody that’s had hip problems earlier in his career has a second hip issue that’s totally unrelated? That’s obviously not the case. He shouldn’t have been rushed back mbut I don’t think it would matter either way, he’s had hip issues throughout his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I can see a lot blaming Carlos for this and I'll admit I'm another that wants him gone. One season wonder as his C. V and a lot of people on here pointed out when he came it all becomes clear. That said we had a succession of managers that did the same down the years. Look at Hirsty back in the 90s, have an injection, give us what you can time and time again, we hampered arguably the best striker I've seen in my time at Hillsborough by playing him unfit and injured all the time. Will we ever learn from past mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 21 hours ago, ramone said: This kind of thing happens at EVERY club in the country That makes it alright then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, kingsidney said: That makes it alright then What i'm saying is it isn't some shocking revelation that only happens at SWFC as the poster was making out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Sad news, at 29 Kieran seems to be plagued with hip injuries when he should be in his prime. I'm not sure whether this is a degenerative condition or whether it is 'fixable' but either way the result is that he is unlikely to feature much this season and we probably need to think about a permanent replacement. On top of this there is a whiff of mismanagement around the whole situation which just adds fuel to the Carlos pyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 11 hours ago, james o connor said: So you are telling me somebody that’s had hip problems earlier in his career has a second hip issue that’s totally unrelated? That’s obviously not the case. He shouldn’t have been rushed back mbut I don’t think it would matter either way, he’s had hip issues throughout his career. well it's the other hip so yes it's a completely different injury and not a flare up of the previous one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 18/12/2017 at 12:22, Royal_D said: Sorry i don’t think I agree with this overplaying business, he’s a professional footballer he’s either fit enough to be one or he isn’t plain and simple sorry, these lads get paid a phenomenal amount of money But some players don't like saying no and upsetting their manager. It doesn't look good for Kieran and I hope this is not a consequence of the managers whim to get him back into the team far too early and not taking medical advice. Hutch, Fletcher. Forrestiere to a degree, Lees and Hunt can all be looked at as to playing on with injuries. Look where's it got them, and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 17 hours ago, lukestheman82 said: Managers 5 years ago didnt splosh about 30 mill on new players. The game is littered with unsuccessful managers who have spent much much more. Money does not guarantee success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: well it's the other hip so yes it's a completely different injury and not a flare up of the previous one So basically that could mean 2 f**ked hips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: well it's the other hip so yes it's a completely different injury and not a flare up of the previous one Anyone who has had a hip operation/replacement will tell you that they are warned by their doctor to expect problems with their other hip due to it compensating for the previous hips injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Where's Dr @Saxondale when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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