owlmanc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: In what league? Irrelevant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, owlmanc said: Irrelevant Of course its not irrelevant Its very relevant to acknowledge the standard at which the wins were gained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlmanc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, scram said: Of course its not irrelevant Its very relevant to acknowledge the standard at which the wins were gained It's irrelevant in that we had lots of league one players. If Megson had spent £30m and got a lesser win ratio then fair enough. It was all loans, freebies and players that madaric bought thinking he knew about players (remember the random players from former Yugoslavia we had on our books) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We had one of the top two league one budgets We've probably not been in the top 6 championship budgets - and we're miles away from the highest 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, scram said: We had one of the top two league one budgets We've probably not been in the top 6 championship budgets - and we're miles away from the highest 3-4 But he inherited a woefully performing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simaniac Owl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He will be back sooner than you think. Get ready for The Magnificent Megson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Simaniac Owl said: He will be back sooner than you think. Get ready for The Magnificent Megson Going to Hull unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Going to Hull unfortunately Bloody brilliant !!!! If true, best news I have heard in ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, steelowl said: All Sheffield Wednesday Managers Manager From Until Hons GpH W D L Total Win% Carlos Carvalhal 2015 Now 0 n/a 45 32 32 109 41.28 Stuart Gray 2013 2015 0 n/a 30 25 29 84 35.71 Dave Jones 2012 2013 1 81.00 29 22 30 81 35.80 Gary Megson 2011 2012 0 n/a 27 14 21 62 43.55 Alan Irvine 2010 2011 0 n/a 24 13 22 59 40.68 Brian Laws 2006 2009 0 n/a 52 42 60 154 33.77 Sean McAuley 2006 2006 0 n/a 3 1 0 4 75.00 Paul Sturrock 2004 2006 1 104.00 35 29 40 104 33.65 Chris Turner 2002 2004 0 n/a 29 31 36 96 30.21 Bill Green 2002 2002 0 n/a 0 0 1 1 0.00 Terry Yorath 2001 2002 0 n/a 16 15 25 56 28.57 Peter Shreeves 2001 2001 0 n/a 11 9 11 31 35.48 Paul Jewell 2000 2001 0 n/a 12 5 21 38 31.58 Peter Shreeves 2000 2000 0 n/a 3 1 5 9 33.33 Danny Wilson 1998 2000 0 n/a 23 17 40 80 28.75 Ron Atkinson 1997 1998 0 n/a 9 7 11 27 33.33 David Pleat 1995 1997 0 n/a 32 30 40 102 31.37 Trevor Francis 1991 1995 0 n/a 88 68 58 214 41.12 Ron Atkinson 1989 1991 2 59.00 49 35 34 118 41.53 Peter Eustace 1988 1989 0 n/a 2 7 9 18 11.11 Howard Wilkinson 1983 1988 1 264.00 120 69 75 264 45.45 Jack Charlton 1977 1983 1 303.00 122 94 87 303 40.26 Len Ashurst 1975 1977 0 n/a 38 28 38 104 36.54 Steve Burtenshaw 1974 1975 0 n/a 13 17 40 70 18.57 Derek Dooley 1971 1973 0 n/a 44 36 58 138 31.88 Danny Williams 1969 1971 0 n/a 17 17 37 71 23.94 Jack Marshall 1968 1969 0 n/a 13 19 22 54 24.07 Alan Brown 1964 1968 0 n/a 67 47 75 189 35.45 Vic Buckingham 1961 1964 0 n/a 63 24 47 134 47.01 Harry Catterick 1958 1961 1 138.00 77 31 30 138 55.80 Eric Taylor 1942 1958 3 179.67 196 128 215 539 36.36 Jimmy McMullan 1937 1942 0 n/a 33 23 21 77 42.86 Billy Walker 1933 1937 2 93.50 66 53 68 187 35.29 Robert Brown 1920 1933 3 200.00 266 135 199 600 44.33 Arthur Dickinson 1891 1920 5 183.80 393 188 338 919 42.76 That's settles the argument then ? Let's have a Catterick / Buckingham back in a Clough/Taylor type partnership with McCauley as under 23 coach. "GEORGE GET YER BOOTS ON LAD YOUR ON" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Megson and Fernando...can you imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, rickygoo said: But he inherited a woefully performing team. Yeah...and they performed worse. Far worse for the remainder of that season. Don't know why people think he'll save this season! It's certainly not based on how he performed here. It was the next season, and a relatively big budget, that turned us around. He was doing OK results wise, nothing special, but the football was awful. We were stuttering (at best) when the decision was made to sack him. A narrow win against the Blunts seems to make people forget that. Then again, he did tell the press he'd play better footballer but the players weren't capable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I think he's maybe not the long term answer, but since he's available I'd bring him in until the end of the season, bring some pride and aggression back into the side if Carlos goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Folk in the know wouldn’t be in the know for very long if they broadcasted their knowledge to all and sundry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, Donny.Owl said: Yeah...and they performed worse. Far worse for the remainder of that season. Don't know why people think he'll save this season! It's certainly not based on how he performed here. It was the next season, and a relatively big budget, that turned us around. He was doing OK results wise, nothing special, but the football was awful. We were stuttering (at best) when the decision was made to sack him. A narrow win against the Blunts seems to make people forget that. Then again, he did tell the press he'd play better footballer but the players weren't capable. We were third when he left. He built a team that got us automatic promotion and, crucially, reinstalled pride in the club after a long decline. It’s all ifs and buts as to whether we would have gone up under him but he was a key part of the turnaround. I don’t get the dislikers never mind the haters - not that he’s the man for us now under the current regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 39 minutes ago, Donny.Owl said: Yeah...and they performed worse. Far worse for the remainder of that season. Don't know why people think he'll save this season! It's certainly not based on how he performed here. It was the next season, and a relatively big budget, that turned us around. He was doing OK results wise, nothing special, but the football was awful. We were stuttering (at best) when the decision was made to sack him. A narrow win against the Blunts seems to make people forget that. Then again, he did tell the press he'd play better footballer but the players weren't capable. take them and the passion all day when we play them it's a chip on the shoulder little man thing you have to be up for it cos they always are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, rickygoo said: We were third when he left. He built a team that got us automatic promotion and, crucially, reinstalled pride in the club after a long decline. It’s all ifs and buts as to whether we would have gone up under him but he was a key part of the turnaround. I don’t get the dislikers never mind the haters - not that he’s the man for us now under the current regime. He has a persona that people "love or hate" bit like Colin but not as extreme. I don't hate him, I disliked his style of play and the guff he spoke about having bargain players that couldn't play football etc and I really dislike the whole myth about him turning this club around. Like the turmoil which nearly ended us never happened and MM didn't come in and give us that fresh start. Nah, it was all Irvine's fault and Megson saved us! Yeah the derby put us back into 3rd... with a top 3 budget. It was no great feat, but he was definitely doing enough to keep his job... If it was just about the results; but that's another story. As I (and many others over the years) have said, he was doing OK. Harsh sacking, but it was such a relief in terms of how the team performed post Megson, and that was not ALL down to Antonio, another Cult myth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 11 hours ago, Lichfield alien said: The no nowts on here who are allways goin on about stevenage Not really if you attended a lot of the games from that season, we had lost our way, a little like the present, apart from we were playing at Exeter, Chesterfield and as you say Stevenage the well known Manchester City of the lower league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 hours ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Just imagine the first game when he's back. 3 v 0 up with fifteen minutes to go. Quick and direct football with Nuhiu as the vocal point. Fans are hugging and dancing in the stands. 30,000 all singing in unison ''He's one of our own, he's one of our own, Gary Megson, he's one of our own'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 hours ago, scram said: Of course its not irrelevant Its very relevant to acknowledge the standard at which the wins were gained Very true. And to add further context he took over a team that was in free fall under Irvine not to mention years of mismanagement by the club's owners that was only just being addressed by Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) I loved Megson when he was here. He helped bring back some pride and passion after a long period of being sh*t. I just don't think we need that type of pride and passion, i don't think the players would respond well - we don't need Forestieri running around Grenno woods, or Van Aken taken up the kop. Edited December 4, 2017 by bigdan2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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