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Just now, Geoffrey said:

Read through the posts on here. Many posters have simply made things up that they have no way of backing up. The two other posters are huge Wednesday fans who have left this site on principle. Are you calling them liars?

 

No, but so what if I was. That’s exactly what you are doing to others.

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2 minutes ago, SiJ said:

But he's leaving and is leaving for a Premier League club. 

 

 

You know that? Is Vulva lying when he says he's joining a German club? Are we maximising his transfer fee by not letting him train with his peers and not letting him play football?

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Geoffrey knows absolutely jack shït about the situation yet is telling people off for making things up.

 

He will believe you if you’re a massive Wednesday fan and you leave the site though (also if it’s what he wants to hear - especially that bit).

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4 minutes ago, Sonny said:

 

No, but so what if I was. That’s exactly what you are doing to others.

Yes, because they've said they don't know anything about it and then go on to make assumptions about GH's contractural demands. Both can't be true.

 

"So what if I was"   Location:F@@@off - what a playground comedian you are.

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1 minute ago, Geoffrey said:

Yes, because they've said they don't know anything about it and then go on to make assumptions about GH's contractural demands. Both can't be true.

 

"So what if I was"   Location:F@@@off - what a playground comedian you are.

 

Where has @Semedo's ferret said he doesn’t know anything? Seems like it’s just you telling him that... even though you have absolutely no idea what the situation is.

 

Criteria for Geoffrey to accept as truth:

 

Posted by a ‘big Wednesdayite’ before leaving the site.

 

or

 

Printed in the Daily Mail

 

and 

 

Be what he wants to hear

 

 

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I’m confused guys, on one hand he’s not even the best player in the U23’s, he’s nowhere near ready for first team selection and he’s not even strong enough to fend off tackles from Championship League defenders.

 

However on the other hand he’s the best young home grown prospect that we have had for many a year, what is it to be? There are a lot of assumptions being made, to be fair that’s all that can be made, with the current zero response from Thrush Central, I’m just wondering if a mega offer has been made by a top Premier League club, with a proviso that he isn’t put into the shop window.

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4 hours ago, Lord Snooty said:

Hack looking for stories on International break.

Nothing in there that we don't know.

 

Exactly. 

 

My point of view: The player has not signed a contract, seems clear he intends to move at the end of his current deal to chase the money. cant blame him for that in today's football climate but similarly why should the club give him a shirt over another young player who is committed to the club.

 

Why would the club waste time and resources developing a player who is leaving in a few months, where the club have decided there is little financial reward (over and above what they expect to achieve at tribunal) in doing so.

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17 minutes ago, Geoffrey said:

Read through the posts on here. Many posters have simply made things up that they have no way of backing up. The two other posters are huge Wednesday fans who have left this site on principle. Are you calling them liars?

 

What principle? 

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5 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said:

Best thing for all involved will be to pay him what he wants and get him involved with the first team. 

 

Yep...pay an unproven teenager whatever he wants. 

 

That is a great way to manage a club. Sure we’d no regret such a decision when first team regulars start banging on the chairman’s door and asking why they’re earning less or the same as an 18 year old with no proven track record in first team football.

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8 minutes ago, Sonny said:

 

Where has @Semedo's ferret said he doesn’t know anything? Seems like it’s just you telling him that... even though you have absolutely no idea what the situation is.

 

Other posters have said they don't know and then gone on to make things up.

If you want to believe that Semedo's ferret sits in on contract negotiations so be it. He's welcome to back up his claims.

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5 hours ago, Owls2k said:

It looks like Hirst's advisors are trying every trick in the book...
 

Sheffield Wednesday starlet George Hirst to leave the club amid mystery over continued first team snub

 

As England's Young Lions continue to impress at all levels, the curious case of George Hirst and Sheffield Wednesday illustrates a problem facing the best teenage footballers in the country.
Hirst and Wednesday should be a match made in heaven: one is the son of an Owls legend who dreams of scoring goals at Hillsborough, and the other a club desperate for the tonic of a homegrown hero.
Yet the 18-year-old striker is set to leave when his contract expires at the end of the season having reached the inescapable conclusion that the club he loves does not have his best interests at heart.

 

As Hirst was scoring 40 goals across different age levels last season, the Owls were busy stockpiling more senior strikers and effectively blocking his route to the first team.
He still agreed to sign a new contract and continue his development on loan, but talks with chairman Dejphon Chansiri stalled upon a disagreement about where he might spend this season.
Wednesday rejected a bid from Leicester in August worth £2million and Leeds had a formal approach turned down. Both clubs remain keen as so do many others.

 

Hirst has not played for Wednesday at any age level this season and, when asked for an update, Owls boss Carlos Carvalhal claimed it was 'completely out of my orbit'.
'He's not a player who is involved with us,' said Carvalhal. 'I am the manager but I'm not a person to do contracts and talk about these things.'
Hirst's only football comes with England, who were eager for him to remain involved after he scored four goals for the Under 20s and was named in the team of the tournament at Toulon in June.

 

He followed with a hat-trick for the Under 19s against Poland in September and is with them this week for European qualifiers against the Faroe Islands, Iceland and Bulgaria.
There are some similarities with Dominic Solanke who barely played for Chelsea at any level last season having made it clear he would be leaving at the end of his contract.
England kept faith and Solanke helped his country win the Under 20 World Cup in the summer before joining Liverpool, where he thought the path to the first team might be clearer. Chelsea, however, had been in pursuit of the Premier League title, with Eden Hazard, Diego Costa, Pedro and Willian competing for places up front.

 

At Wednesday, fourth in the Championship last season and beaten in the play-offs, Hirst's opportunities have been limited by Gary Hooper, Steven Fletcher, Fernando Forestieri, Lucas Joao and Atdhe Nuhiu.
Earlier this year, aware Hirst had been tearing it up in the youth ranks, they bought two more strikers, Sam Winnall and Jordan Rhodes. It is a bizarre approach to nurturing the most exciting youngster to emerge from their academy for a generation.
Across the city, Sheffield United are in the habit of producing Premier League players, such as Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, Matthew Lowton, Harry Maguire and Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Midfielder David Brooks is the latest starlet attracting scouts to Bramall Lane.


Owls fans cheered Hirst on for his debut as a substitute in a Carabao Cup tie at Cambridge United, but he is set to leave having played only 41 minutes of first-team football for the club he has supported all his life.


After this international break he will face the prospect of no competitive action until the Under 19s meet again at the end of February.
His development is losing momentum and Wednesday will be paid a fraction of what he could ultimately be worth to them. There is no winner.

 

 

F*ck off daily mail 

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3 minutes ago, Geoffrey said:

Other posters have said they don't know and then gone on to make things up.

If you want to believe that Semedo's ferret sits in on contract negotiations so be it. He's welcome to back up his claims.

 

The posters that you are calling liars may or may not know the truth (although some have pretty strong credentials). The point is that you are not in a position to make that call because you know absolutely zero.

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2 minutes ago, Sonny said:

 

The posters that you are calling liars may or may not know the truth (although some have pretty strong credentials). The point is that you are not in a position to make that call because you know absolutely zero.

They can back up their claims or go to your unbelievably hilarious location.

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