Owls2k Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 It looks like Hirst's advisors are trying every trick in the book... Sheffield Wednesday starlet George Hirst to leave the club amid mystery over continued first team snub As England's Young Lions continue to impress at all levels, the curious case of George Hirst and Sheffield Wednesday illustrates a problem facing the best teenage footballers in the country. Hirst and Wednesday should be a match made in heaven: one is the son of an Owls legend who dreams of scoring goals at Hillsborough, and the other a club desperate for the tonic of a homegrown hero. Yet the 18-year-old striker is set to leave when his contract expires at the end of the season having reached the inescapable conclusion that the club he loves does not have his best interests at heart. As Hirst was scoring 40 goals across different age levels last season, the Owls were busy stockpiling more senior strikers and effectively blocking his route to the first team. He still agreed to sign a new contract and continue his development on loan, but talks with chairman Dejphon Chansiri stalled upon a disagreement about where he might spend this season. Wednesday rejected a bid from Leicester in August worth £2million and Leeds had a formal approach turned down. Both clubs remain keen as so do many others. Hirst has not played for Wednesday at any age level this season and, when asked for an update, Owls boss Carlos Carvalhal claimed it was 'completely out of my orbit'. 'He's not a player who is involved with us,' said Carvalhal. 'I am the manager but I'm not a person to do contracts and talk about these things.' Hirst's only football comes with England, who were eager for him to remain involved after he scored four goals for the Under 20s and was named in the team of the tournament at Toulon in June. He followed with a hat-trick for the Under 19s against Poland in September and is with them this week for European qualifiers against the Faroe Islands, Iceland and Bulgaria. There are some similarities with Dominic Solanke who barely played for Chelsea at any level last season having made it clear he would be leaving at the end of his contract. England kept faith and Solanke helped his country win the Under 20 World Cup in the summer before joining Liverpool, where he thought the path to the first team might be clearer. Chelsea, however, had been in pursuit of the Premier League title, with Eden Hazard, Diego Costa, Pedro and Willian competing for places up front. At Wednesday, fourth in the Championship last season and beaten in the play-offs, Hirst's opportunities have been limited by Gary Hooper, Steven Fletcher, Fernando Forestieri, Lucas Joao and Atdhe Nuhiu. Earlier this year, aware Hirst had been tearing it up in the youth ranks, they bought two more strikers, Sam Winnall and Jordan Rhodes. It is a bizarre approach to nurturing the most exciting youngster to emerge from their academy for a generation. Across the city, Sheffield United are in the habit of producing Premier League players, such as Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, Matthew Lowton, Harry Maguire and Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Midfielder David Brooks is the latest starlet attracting scouts to Bramall Lane. Owls fans cheered Hirst on for his debut as a substitute in a Carabao Cup tie at Cambridge United, but he is set to leave having played only 41 minutes of first-team football for the club he has supported all his life. After this international break he will face the prospect of no competitive action until the Under 19s meet again at the end of February. His development is losing momentum and Wednesday will be paid a fraction of what he could ultimately be worth to them. There is no winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I don't buy this BS from Carlos that it is out of his orbit and he can't get involved in contractual stuff. He's the manager FFS. Surely he has some influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 If he agreed to sign a new contract, why didn’t he sign a new contract? The article makes absolutely no sense Nice of them to bring up the players who have been sold on from Pigs academy though, that obviously has huge significance in this instance Deary me Waffle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Crazy situation. Heads should roll. Squandered opportunity and waste of talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, crookesowl said: I don't buy this BS from Carlos that it is out of his orbit and he can't get involved in contractual stuff. He's the manager FFS. Surely he has some influence. He’s paid to coach, train, develop and pick (cough) the team That’s his remit Also, occasionally provide training kits 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, crookesowl said: I don't buy this BS from Carlos that it is out of his orbit and he can't get involved in contractual stuff. He's the manager FFS. Surely he has some influence. he's the head coach ......someone else deals with the contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hack looking for stories on International break. Nothing in there that we don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, crookesowl said: I don't buy this BS from Carlos that it is out of his orbit and he can't get involved in contractual stuff. He's the manager FFS. Surely he has some influence. A man trying to cling onto his job, the best job, probably the highest paid job, of his career. He will, as already proven, stick with his tried and trusted players. Other players brought in just provide a safety net. Chansiri is focused 100% in staying in this job. Meantime, there is a valid argument that if our form were to remain indifferent, and we seemed incapable of challenging for promotion with the teams we are putting out, there is no reason why we shouldn’t experiment beyond the current first team squad. Currently still in with a chance of promotion, so the status quo will continue for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Bit of a smear job. We had the temerity to bring in proven strikers to aid our promotion push. It wasn’t done to stop Hirst from getting into the first team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) Difficult to know who to blame for a crappy situation. Hugely disappointing that a genuinely exciting prospect, home grown, with ties in his blood to us, has pretty much left us already. Nobody emerges from the situation with credit. Edited November 11, 2017 by Mr Farrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 It's SWFC's fault GH and his advisors are completely innocent DC, CC and Ozzie Owl should be burnt at the stake. I'm joining the hate mob, its brill you can just blame whoever you like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedDragonOwl Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Neither Hirst "loves" wednesday. George wants first team money, yet he doesn't deserve it, and refused to go out on loan. David, isn't relevant in football anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, RedDragonOwl said: Neither Hirst "loves" wednesday. George wants first team money, yet he doesn't deserve it, and refused to go out on loan. David, isn't relevant in football anymore. How on Earth is David Hirst irrelevant? He remains a club legend in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 The bit about United makes me laugh. No denying the fact that they’ve produced a lot of talent in recent times...but every single one has been snapped up by a Premier League club and Brooks will eventually move on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 We had no issues with paying Lewis Mcgugan 18k a week to play table tennis. Claude Dielna earnt thousands flexing in the mirror. Urby was on big bucks for a season of sporadically playing for the U23's. Yet we can't agree a deal with our best prospect in donkeys years. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Difficult to know who to blame for a crappy situation. Hugely disappointing that a genuinely exciting prospect, home grown, with ties in his blood to us, has pretty much left us already. Nobody emerges from the situation with credit. Always 3 sides to a story their side,his side and the truth. End of the day it boils down to money,Chansiri`s stopped him from playing,nothing will change other than he will be at a new club next year so lets try and make some money out of him and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 It's the daily mail ffs!. They haven't got any Immigrants to pick on, or Jeremy Corbyn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, crookesowl said: I don't buy this BS from Carlos that it is out of his orbit and he can't get involved in contractual stuff. He's the manager FFS. Surely he has some influence. Because DC does all the contract negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, BRUCE LEE said: If he agreed to sign a new contract, why didn’t he sign a new contract? Because " talks with chairman Dejphon Chansiri stalled upon a disagreement about where he might spend this season. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Best thing for all concerned is he is sold in Jan. Get as much as we can and move on. Frustrating to see a hot prospect leave, but truth be told I’m not sure we had much chance of keeping him once the Premier League clubs became interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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