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Who is Sheffield Wednesday's greatest ever goalkeeper?


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3 hours ago, ChewyLovesOwls said:

I'm 28, had a kit given to me from birth pretty much but only really started to pay attention in 2002/03. So in my span of following Wednesday I've seen keepers like Lee Grant, David Lucas, Kieren Westwood, Chris Kirkland. Out of the keepers I've seen, Westwood would have to be top of that list.

 

Overall though, I appreciate that in our history we have seen some fantastic keepers and the likes of Pressman or Springett must be the top 2.

 

Shout out though to Dawson for last season, 22 appearances - 14 clean sheets. That is a fantastic achievement that deserves some credit.

I think jack brown would be second to springett if we are going back to ever  

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Just recently is just about the only time we haven’t had a decent keeper

 

Even when we have had really poor teams we’ve almost always ( Tidman excepted) had very good keepers and loaned good keepers too

 

I never saw Springett but in my time I’d have to go with Martin Hodge 

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5 hours ago, Uncle Albert said:

I can only go on what I’ve seen so I’m going for Pressman with Hodge very close 

I think Pressman is viewed more highly because of his performances against the great unwashed from across the city. 
For me, Hodge was better than him and was very close to an England call up

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On 10/11/2017 at 08:15, torryowl said:

there isn't any ......I believe the story goes that the company that video'd games back then got the kick off time wrong and didn't turn up .

Yep - the last ever top flight game not to have any video footage of it.

 

 FACT!

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On 10/11/2017 at 06:52, pgmetcalf said:

Would probably have to be the one with most games played and fewest clean sheets, or at least goals conceded

 

Arise, Sir Stephen of Bywater - greatest ever Wednesday keeper!

 

Goals conceded per game (SWFC goalies, at least 10 appearances)

1. Stephen Bywater = 0.87

2. Iain Turner = 1.00

3. Keiren Westwood = 1.00

4. Bailey Peacock-Farrell = 1.04

5. Bob Bolder = 1.08

6. H Ledger = 1.15

7. Chris Woods = 1.15

8. David Lucas = 1.22

9. Cameron Dawson = 1.22

10. Martin Hodge = 1.24

 

Games per Clean Sheet (SWFC goalies, at least 10 appearances)

1. H Ledger = 2.2

2. Stephen Bywater = 2.4

3. Bailey Peacock-Farrell = 2.8

4. Cameron Dawson = 2.8

5. Keiren Westwood = 2.8

6. Bob Bolder = 3.0

7. Teddy Davison = 3.1

8. Ron Springett = 3.3

9. Joe Wildsmith = 3.3

10. David Lucas = 3.3

 

Most Clean Sheets - SWFC Keepers:

1. Teddy Davison = 136

2. Jack Brown = 121

3. Kevin Pressman = 119

4. Ron Springett = 117

5. Jack Lyall = 85

6. Bob Bolder = 75

7. Keiren Westwood = 70

8. Martin Hodge = 67

9. Dave McIntosh = 65

10. Chris Turner = 57

 

H Ledger (who played from 1880-1883) seems to have lost his full first name in the mists of time. Perhaps a very young Heath Ledger. Or else, he's like H from Steps and doesn't need any more letters.

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3 hours ago, Emerson Thome said:

H Ledger (who played from 1880-1883) seems to have lost his full first name in the mists of time. Perhaps a very young Heath Ledger. Or else, he's like H from Steps and doesn't need any more letters.

 

 

 

RIP

 

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Ron Springett for me. Not the tallest but so agile it didn’t matter. Robust  enough to withstand much more physical challenges than are allowed now. Caught the ball and very rarely spilled it.

Add 33 England caps and it puts him well ahead of the rest.

 

Interesting fact.
In his time with the Owls he trained with QPR and travelled to Sheffield on match days.

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12 hours ago, Emerson Thome said:

 

Arise, Sir Stephen of Bywater - greatest ever Wednesday keeper!

 

Goals conceded per game (SWFC goalies, at least 10 appearances)

1. Stephen Bywater = 0.87

2. Iain Turner = 1.00

3. Keiren Westwood = 1.00

4. Bailey Peacock-Farrell = 1.04

5. Bob Bolder = 1.08

6. H Ledger = 1.15

7. Chris Woods = 1.15

8. David Lucas = 1.22

9. Cameron Dawson = 1.22

10. Martin Hodge = 1.24

 

Games per Clean Sheet (SWFC goalies, at least 10 appearances)

1. H Ledger = 2.2

2. Stephen Bywater = 2.4

3. Bailey Peacock-Farrell = 2.8

4. Cameron Dawson = 2.8

5. Keiren Westwood = 2.8

6. Bob Bolder = 3.0

7. Teddy Davison = 3.1

8. Ron Springett = 3.3

9. Joe Wildsmith = 3.3

10. David Lucas = 3.3

 

Most Clean Sheets - SWFC Keepers:

1. Teddy Davison = 136

2. Jack Brown = 121

3. Kevin Pressman = 119

4. Ron Springett = 117

5. Jack Lyall = 85

6. Bob Bolder = 75

7. Keiren Westwood = 70

8. Martin Hodge = 67

9. Dave McIntosh = 65

10. Chris Turner = 57

 

H Ledger (who played from 1880-1883) seems to have lost his full first name in the mists of time. Perhaps a very young Heath Ledger. Or else, he's like H from Steps and doesn't need any more letters.

Useful information but remember that until the mid 1960’s teams played a 

2-3-5 formation consisting of 2 full backs, 3 half backs and 5 forwards.

In other words attacking football aimed at out scoring the opposition and little concern about clean sheets.

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On 09/11/2017 at 13:27, TrickyTrev said:

Ron Springett although in my time following the Owls I’d say Chris Woods.

 

Often criticised by owls for a couple of high profile mistakes but many forget the countless excellent performances he put in, an away defeat at Anfield springs to mind, he looked outstanding  that day.

 

In a time when competition for the England goal keeper jersey was far more fierce than it is now (Seaman, James, Lukic, Cotton, Martyn, Flowers, Walker, etc) he was considered England’s number 1 keeper for a period of a few seasons and even before coming to Hillsborough he was number 2 under Bobby Robson, second only to the great Peter Shilton.

 

An excellent goal keeper.


Woods was bang average for us and his legacy was flapping at Bould’s header in the FACF.  

 

He cost a lot for the times and the money that could have been better invested - such a key consideration at the time.  
 

Pressman was a perfectly adequate N1 and all we needed was a decent backup.

 

Just another example of suspect judgement by Francis signing-wise which didn’t quite work out during those heady days.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Blatter said:

Useful information but remember that until the mid 1960’s teams played a 

2-3-5 formation consisting of 2 full backs, 3 half backs and 5 forwards.

In other words attacking football aimed at out scoring the opposition and little concern about clean sheets.

 

Yes, that's true. plus the goalies who played in a good team with a settled defence gunning for promotion (Westwood, Bywater, Bolder) have an advantage over the ones playing in front of a shambles and fighting relegations (Grant, Srnicek, Vasquez).

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FWIW, in my opinion the all-time answer is obviously Springett, but in my era (1990 onwards) it's between Woods, Grant and Westwood. There have been other good 'uns like Pressman and Kirkland in the tier just below them. Even though he never played in the top tier for us, I think I'd go with Westwood. Big game player, great shot-stopper, organised his defence and his kicking wasn't as bad as some make out (plus I bet most of the keepers before Pressman couldn't kick all that well anyway).

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