WalthamOwl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, frastheowl said: Really? He had a win percentage of 42%. That's never been a shocking job. They finished 15th in the league. For a team that spent as much as they did I would say that was a pretty poor return. Do we really want another manager that can't seem to get the best out of expensive signings. Edited October 15, 2017 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: He "listened" to the fans about McGugan and Rhodes, Is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Owl Be Back said: I think Carlos should go. Absolutely. Replaced by a young and hungry manager (like Heckingbottom) not an old dinosaur (like Moyes). However, if the rumours I hear coming out of Hillsborough are true then the problems won't be put to rest as a lot of it stems from Chansiri. And, worryingly, it isn't likely to change. As I said in another thread, a light needs shining on DC as much as CC as they are both culpable in this debacle. I have grave doubts that DC is saviour that many thought he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, Southie_Owl said: Yes and as already mentioned managing Sociedad was destined to fail and Sunderland is a dead zone what about chris Coleman? Coleman has got a rubber face, and has stumbled across a generation of decent Welsh players. The failure of Wales to qualify for the World Cup is huge, and I'm surpised Coleman hasn't been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Got shot down in flames a while ago, but Roy Keane is my choice should we need a new manager. Proven at this level, spent the last few years learning from O'Neill and has a point to prove. And don't believe the nonsense you've read in the press. Very popular amongst players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, rickygoo said: Is that true? Well he signed them on the back of popular fan opinion. While I'd argue that he didn't "listen" to the fanbase, if Carlos were to be sacked on Monday many would say that DC has "listened" to the will of the fanbase, which IMO is just a tenuous an argument as saying that he listened to us to sign the above two players. I'm using the same logic, not sure I'm condoning said logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 No way of knowing. It's always the case of getting the right fit at the right time. Anyone of them could come in and fail or come in and be an astounding success. You never know until you take the plunge. We can only genuinely say if they'd be good or not when we get an opportunity to see them in action at our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, BRADDO said: As I said in another thread, a light needs shining on DC as much as CC as they are both culpable in this debacle. I have grave doubts that DC is saviour that many thought he was. I completely agree with this. Stuff I've heard from a person who works at Wednesday says he's clueless and stuff just isn't getting handled adequately. There's no business plan, apart from increasing prices, no philosophy to the football he wants to see, etc etc. It really sounds like there's no big vision or an agreed direction for the club to go in. Can see really dark times ahead. I'm just hoping that at least a little of what I'm hearing isn't true; it it is then, well... I think we'll be shafted in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Owl Be Back said: I completely agree with this. Stuff I've heard from a person who works at Wednesday says he's clueless and stuff just isn't getting handled adequately. There's no business plan, apart from increasing prices, no philosophy to the football he wants to see, etc etc. It really sounds like there's no big vision or an agreed direction for the club to go in. Can see really dark times ahead. I'm just hoping that at least a little of what I'm hearing isn't true; it it is then, well... I think we'll be shafted in a year or two. I think the signs are there that it's all going to end in tears. CC's first season is likely to be the best it will be under DC, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, BRADDO said: I think the signs are there that it's all going to end in tears. CC's first season is likely to be the best it will be under DC, sadly. Highly likely, agreed. We were still working with what had been put in place by Milan and his team. That's now no longer in evidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 A clue here maybe that Allardyce has ruled himself out of the Scotland job this morning because "it is not the right time"... However, it would not surprise me to hear that the club is looking at likely candidates from the Bundesliga, La Liga or other continental assistant coach looking for the next step as Huudersfield did with Wagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrewsburyowl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 38 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said: Can you start spreading rumours around Shrewsbury that we are interested We don't need a fancy dan manager it's a wilder type we need. I already have! that's why im in hiding so I don't get lynched by proper angry mad Shrews fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Lambert did a shocking job with Wolves for the amount of money they spent. You mean roger all money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, StudentOwl said: Well he signed them on the back of popular fan opinion. While I'd argue that he didn't "listen" to the fanbase, if Carlos were to be sacked on Monday many would say that DC has "listened" to the will of the fanbase, which IMO is just a tenuous an argument as saying that he listened to us to sign the above two players. I'm using the same logic, not sure I'm condoning said logic I don't think he listens takes on board and acts re anything significant. Doesn't sound like that's his way. But that's just an opinion based on no more evidence than most of us have. Edited October 15, 2017 by rickygoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: You mean roger all money? Are you sure about that. Did they not sign Costa for 15 million while he was in charge? May be wrong but thought he was there at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mountain Owl said: Your'e right about the chairman. He took advice on appointing CC which is not working out well so why can't he listen to the fans for once. I see Hurst as an up and coming Chris Wilder and look whats happened there. Bit harsh to suggest Carlos was a bad appointment, we reached two play-off positions. I don't think appointing him was a bad move, not knowing when to let go may be the issue. As for listening to the fans, which ones? There are so many different opinions about who it should be. IMO Dean Smith would be good call, as would Hurst. Edited October 15, 2017 by Beauchief Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Are you sure about that. Did they not sign Costa for 15 million while he was in charge? May be wrong but thought he was there at the time. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Of those, I'd take Lambert and even then he would be well down my list, but then I am not in charge. Never rated Karanka, accept he has a promotion on his CV, but his teams are as boring as Carlos and seems a bit of a mardy arse. Moyes too hardly plays exciting football and hasn't won a game of football in the last 3 years has he? None of these are likely to meet DC's original brief of attacking football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngowl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: No way of knowing. It's always the case of getting the right fit at the right time. Anyone of them could come in and fail or come in and be an astounding success. You never know until you take the plunge. We can only genuinely say if they'd be good or not when we get an opportunity to see them in action at our club. This is so right look how many times the blunts had got a so called top manager which didn't work out you just have to back whoever is selected and hope it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 50 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: No Was he not in charge January 2017? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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