Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: That value is really very arbitrary and determined entirely by computers, don't think it takes any bearing into how much he's 'worth' to a club Also worth bearing in mind that I'm pretty sure it's a German-based website initially. Chances are, for a decent CB for a fairly small club in the 2.Bundesliga in the last year of his contract, £850k or about 1€ million is probably not that far off! Can't deal with our confounded inflated prices over here All joking aside that market is one we should be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 More chance of signing torville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, Saxondale said: Have you got a link mate? It's one of them where you have to sign up, griffinpark.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Andoverowl said: I'm only guessing here but I reckon 7-8 mill mate. No way he is in the last 12 months of contract, guess 2-3 tops.My Charlton mate says he has so far refused a new contract. It's either that he will leave or run his contract down, my friend thinks he will be gone if he doesn't sign. Edited July 24, 2017 by Big Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If he's only got 1 year left then they may well cash in. Brentford aren't likely to compete with the kind of wages he could be getting somewhere else, so if he's aware of this he might not want to extend with them. Then Brentford have to decide if they want to get a final year out of him, or a few million. Their asking price may well drop to something reasonable towards the end of the window. Signing him has the added bonus of disrupting a potential top 6 push from Brentford too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 41 minutes ago, Andoverowl said: I'm only guessing here but I reckon 7-8 mill mate. Is that an Adam Reach £7m or an actual £7m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, Big Jack said: No way he is in the last 12 months of contract, guess 2-3 tops.My Charlton mate says he has so far refused a new contract. It's either that he will leave or run his contract down, my friend thinks he will be gone if he doesn't sign. Sorry didn't realise it was his last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bladeshater said: More chance of signing torville Or Edited July 24, 2017 by theowlsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Just now, Sham67 said: Is that an Adam Reach £7m or an actual £7m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shezza Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I bet we can find a player of equal or better quality for half or less of what we'd have to pay for Dean if we look abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Shezza said: I bet we can find a player of equal or better quality for half or less of what we'd have to pay for Dean if we look abroad. I'd agree, except our scouting network isn't capable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 50 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: I'd agree, except our scouting network isn't capable So out with it then, who are the culprits not performing. What evidence do you have to bring to Mr C regarding the scouting network and their lack of capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: So out with it then, who are the culprits not performing. What evidence do you have to bring to Mr C regarding the scouting network and their lack of capability. Stevie May, Marco Matias, Lucas Joao, Filipe Melo, Sergiu Bus, Urby Emmanuelson, Modou Sougou, Rhoys Wiggins, Marnick Vermijl. Some of those are debatable, some you can argue we moved on from within 6 months of them joining (Bus and Vermijl for example), but what can't be debated is that effectively none of the imports from foreign leagues over the last two seasons have succeeded here for one reason or another. The only one that even comes close to arguably working out is Lucas Joao after a positive start... and he's spent a quarter of his time here out on loan to a club that got relegated. Hopefully it works out for him and he comes good, but even so that's a pretty low success rate. We've had some torrid foreign imports while other clubs such as Huddersfield and Leeds have bought in players from foreign leagues and have had more than half becoming mainstays in their squads and having great seasons. We have a terrible track record of identifying and recruiting foreign talent, and I have two years of data with a less than 20% success rate to back it up, whilst some rival clubs of ours have a greater than 50% success rate with it. I feel that as far as negative statements go, I have plenty of actual evidence to suggest there's quite a large element of truth in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 This would be an amazing signing if there is any truth in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The more I think about it the more the idea of us signing Dean appeals. Had a fairly good game against us last season at Hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 hours ago, StudentOwl said: Stevie May, Marco Matias, Lucas Joao, Filipe Melo, Sergiu Bus, Urby Emmanuelson, Modou Sougou, Rhoys Wiggins, Marnick Vermijl. Some of those are debatable, some you can argue we moved on from within 6 months of them joining (Bus and Vermijl for example), but what can't be debated is that effectively none of the imports from foreign leagues over the last two seasons have succeeded here for one reason or another. The only one that even comes close to arguably working out is Lucas Joao after a positive start... and he's spent a quarter of his time here out on loan to a club that got relegated. Hopefully it works out for him and he comes good, but even so that's a pretty low success rate. We've had some torrid foreign imports while other clubs such as Huddersfield and Leeds have bought in players from foreign leagues and have had more than half becoming mainstays in their squads and having great seasons. We have a terrible track record of identifying and recruiting foreign talent, and I have two years of data with a less than 20% success rate to back it up, whilst some rival clubs of ours have a greater than 50% success rate with it. I feel that as far as negative statements go, I have plenty of actual evidence to suggest there's quite a large element of truth in it and worst of all Nuhui,good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: So out with it then, who are the culprits not performing. What evidence do you have to bring to Mr C regarding the scouting network and their lack of capability. I guess to back up StudentOwl's argument, it is also worth noting that other clubs e.g. Barnsley and Huddersfield etc., seem to have done significantly better than us identifying and then nurturing potential talent. This is one area that we really could do with being better at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 34 minutes ago, Brando17 said: and worst of all Nuhui,good post At least get his name right if you're going to (incorrectly) include him in that list. A freebie striker who helped us consolidate in this league before DC arrived is hardly an example of poor scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie snerklebox Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Bluesteel said: At least get his name right if you're going to (incorrectly) include him in that list. A freebie striker who helped us consolidate in this league before DC arrived is hardly an example of poor scouting. This has gotten me thinking about some of the different names that Nuhiu has been called by TV commentators, and fans (respectable ones that is)..... Big Dave Aunties New Shoes Nahoowa Newey Noohoo Nahoowee Noowa Big Atty And of course, the correct pronunciation.... Noooheeooo! Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Dean is so well rated by Bees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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