The Batman Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Personally think, we countered fine. It was breaking teams down when they'd parked the bus that we struggled a bit with. Abdi could make a huge difference. Edited July 11, 2017 by Donny.Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 *countered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S63 Owl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Lots of quality in that squad but one thing that is missing is pace. Pace in any team is a dangerous things to move you forwards fast and the counter and is the thing that defenders hate defending against. Really hope we address this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, GY-owl.4 said: Maybe he will play FF out wide most of the season? not out an out pace but defenders hate it when he runs at them, Reach no slouch either. Just like CC doesnt like the beast in CM, i think fast wingers going on the outside isnt something he is crazy about either. got a feeling FF and Reach will alternate on the left, looking to really go at their RB. with Boyd and Wallace sharing RM but playing much narrower allowing Hunt to overlap. If we dont bring another wide player in (not forgetting Matias) and go with the above, i wont mind that.. as long as we dont see BB, Abdi or Lee out wide all season we will do well. Ok. I can accept that. If it is the way CCis thinking then I hope the centre-halves we recruit are top class "footballers" that have the ability to pass are carry the ball out from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: Is ff a striker ?.... don't know big Dave barely going to play... still here though Joao will be surely allowed to leave on loan. ..maybe maybe not thats 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardron Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 38 minutes ago, Kameron said: The midfield is our biggest weakness. I personally think that's more an issue with team selection than with the personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 It would alarming if someone with Carlos' knowledge of football can't see that pace is needed as an option. Even if it's just from the bench. Lets hope him saying we just need 2 CB's is a smoke screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: We struggled in certain games last season and one of the main reasons for that imo is because we don't have a great deal of pace to catch teams on the counter attack. I really hope we address that before the season starts. Yep. Thing is if you don't have any pace, some sort of outlet, then you can find yourself dropping deeper and deeper, unable to get out. Think of the difference it would have made against 'Udders in those last twenty minutes if we'd had someone who could carry the ball halfway up the pitch. Edited July 11, 2017 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: Is ff a striker ? big Dave barely going to play Joao will be surely allowed to leave on loan. thats 4 Carlos plays FF as striker. So you are back up to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I can't see Matias playing much to be fair unless it's from bench . Surely ff out wide with Wallace / Boyd on the other ? If we aren't going to sign another wide man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Yep. Thing is if you don't have any pace, some sort of outlet, then you can find yourself dropping deeper and deeper, unable to get out. Think of the difference it would have made against 'Udders in those last twenty minutes if we'd had someone who could carry the ball halfway up the pitch. Why did you have to edit that, I had a joke lined up. grrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s29wfc Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Bringing pace into the squad is one thing, bringing it in with also an end product is another, which will cost a hell of a lot of money. I personally think we will do fine with the wingers we've got, My only gripe is we need to play at a higher tempo from the off especially at home e.g. Norwich last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 When did centre-halves become so fookin' expensive anyway?! They're the least talented outfield players on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Carlos doesn't see a box to box midfielder, or wide men with pace as essential, certainly not for the way we play. We look to block and congest the midfield and that doesn't necessitate speed or strong running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 36 minutes ago, mr owl said: Current first team squad. Is it more ready?? Westwood Wildsmith Dawson Palmer Hunt Lees Loovens Pudil Fox Wallace Boyd Bannan Lee Jones Abdi Hutch Reach Matias Joao Nuhiu Rhodes Hooper Fessi Fletcher Winnall I think there's a few youngsters knocking on door too, Hirst Penney O'Grady and one or two others can be added to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxOwl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Is the pace thing more about our style of play though? In 2015/16 we didn't have any real speed merchants but we always seemed to break away quickly and play quick, exciting football. If you just watch the highlights from our games from that year the difference to 2016/17 is quite striking, despite largely the same personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Carlos doesn't see a box to box midfielder, or wide men with pace as essential, certainly not for the way we play. We look to block and congest the midfield and that doesn't necessitate speed or strong running Not sure that's entirely true. On many occasions he called upon Helan during his first season. The loans of Buckley and McManaman also suggest he wanted direct ball-carriers in wide areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 What's JJ up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 48 minutes ago, Mr. Wednesday said: Hope one of them is Bartley Hope one of them isn't Hanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Southie_Owl said: What's JJ up to these days? Making Star Trek films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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