Southie_Owl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Carlos has used him in two ways. Six games as a RM or LM - Pl. 6. W2. D1. L3 Four games in CM - Pl 4. W1. D1. L2 Ten games is not a big sample, but thats a simply awful set of results compared to the rest of our season. 11 points from 10 games. Not the player we thought we were buying? Wrong to use him wide or in a central two? Not particularly tough oppos. I used the games where he played at least 45 minutes - Villa H, Norwich, Burton, Leeds twice, Brentford H, Wigan H, Brum, Cardiff, Forest. 3 aways, 7 homes. Subbed at HT in 3. Subbed 60-65 minutes in 4. Subbed 75 minutes once. Played 90 minutes in 2. (First two games of the season) Abdi ideally needs to play for a team that uses the 4231 system so he can play in the 3 behind a striker. A bit like a Mikhitarian at Man Utd. Sadly i don't think he'll get that kind of role with us and he's better moving on if he doesn't want his career to stall any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdial Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Sell him if we get the chance no point wasting more wages on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: He's had surgery on his knee. I didn't know that - was his last game against Brentford at home? If so, it was his shoulder. What's the issue with his knee and how long before he's 'back'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls_wawaw Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 47 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Be a big mistake imo. Still think he will come good for us when played in his correct position for a number of games. this for me. he has had bad luck with injury's, I think came with it but wasn't picked up on, but let's not forget when he came he made a big point in his interview about his preferred position and he had spoken to cc and this was where he was going to play but then cc seemed not to play him there and on the wing. I do think he has the potential to rip this league a new ass so I hope he stays. would love to see Lee and abdi in the middle next season WAWAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Animis said: I didn't know that - was his last game against Brentford at home? If so, it was his shoulder. What's the issue with his knee and how long before he's 'back'? He started against Leeds a few days later, but hasn't featured since. I can only assume the knee issue is a more long-standing problem which may have been the root of his struggles all season? Maybe the shoulder injury was a more short-term thing which may have seen him miss a fair chunk of our remaining games anyway and the decision was made to call time on his season and get his knee sorted in time for pre-season? Fingers crossed, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, owls_wawaw said: this for me. he has had bad luck with injury's, I think came with it but wasn't picked up on, but let's not forget when he came he made a big point in his interview about his preferred position and he had spoken to cc and this was where he was going to play but then cc seemed not to play him there and on the wing. I do think he has the potential to rip this league a new ass so I hope he stays. would love to see Lee and abdi in the middle next season WAWAW I saw nothing to suggest he is better than Bannan in a midfield two. As others who seem to know him better, perhaps in a midfield 3 he would run matches and score 8-10 goals. But central in a 442 I saw an ok player and nothing more. If Carlos is thinking some sort of 433 perhaps he should stay, but if it's 442 again then what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldGigsChris Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 DC won't sell him to a competitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Would like to see more of a fuly fit Abdi for the Owls next season, not allowing him to strengthen a competitor. Things would have been very different if he Hooper and Lee had remained fully fit all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Carlos has used him in two ways. Six games as a RM or LM - Pl. 6. W2. D1. L3 Four games in CM - Pl 4. W1. D1. L2 Ten games is not a big sample, but thats a simply awful set of results compared to the rest of our season. 11 points from 10 games. Not the player we thought we were buying? Wrong to use him wide or in a central two? Not particularly tough oppos. I used the games where he played at least 45 minutes - Villa H, Norwich, Burton, Leeds twice, Brentford H, Wigan H, Brum, Cardiff, Forest. 3 aways, 7 homes. Subbed at HT in 3. Subbed 60-65 minutes in 4. Subbed 75 minutes once. Played 90 minutes in 2. (First two games of the season) The stats at the end tell the story. He has had two games lasting 90 mins. How can you judge a players ability based on 45 and an hour here and there? Its not really a fair assessment of what he can bring. He needs a good run in the team in his best position. Just hope he gets it. Edited June 4, 2017 by Earlsfieldowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Blatter said: Would like to see more of a fuly fit Abdi for the Owls next season, not allowing him to strengthen a competitor. Things would have been very different if he Hooper and Lee had remained fully fit all season. Why would it have been different? When everyone was fit, Carlos was playing 3CMs (incl Abdi right or left often) and FF up top with either Hooper or Fletch. We were 10th after 18 games. When Hooper came back we started playing a proper 442 with only two CMs and two proper strikers, and we won every match. It wasn't injuries. They helped us bizarrely. We played players in their best roles - great run. We played a shoe-horn XI - 10th place form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Be foolhardy to let him go without actually seeing the real player. He's never had the chance, both in terms of tactics, and fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Be foolhardy to let him go without actually seeing the real player. He's never had the chance, both in terms of tactics, and fitness. Correct mate , once fully fit I expect him to be a major player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuntItLikeDielna Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Cue that mental Fibonacci bloke going on an eight thread rampage about how Abdi is no better than Darren Potter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Be foolhardy to let him go without actually seeing the real player. He's never had the chance, both in terms of tactics, and fitness. I agree a good pre-season behind him and let's see where he's at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, PuntItLikeDielna said: Cue that mental Fibonacci bloke going on an eight thread rampage about how Abdi is no better than Darren Potter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Be foolhardy to let him go without actually seeing the real player. He's never had the chance, both in terms of tactics, and fitness. Usually think you post a load of ballcocks. However, you're spot on this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Why would it have been different? When everyone was fit, Carlos was playing 3CMs (incl Abdi right or left often) and FF up top with either Hooper or Fletch. We were 10th after 18 games. When Hooper came back we started playing a proper 442 with only two CMs and two proper strikers, and we won every match. It wasn't injuries. They helped us bizarrely. We played players in their best roles - great run. We played a shoe-horn XI - 10th place form. We didn't play three central midfielders. We played Abdi as a wide midfielder...as he was used to playing in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Why would it have been different? When everyone was fit, Carlos was playing 3CMs (incl Abdi right or left often) and FF up top with either Hooper or Fletch. We were 10th after 18 games. When Hooper came back we started playing a proper 442 with only two CMs and two proper strikers, and we won every match. It wasn't injuries. They helped us bizarrely. We played players in their best roles - great run. We played a shoe-horn XI - 10th place form. The only way this will be broken is if Bannan, Lee or Hutch get sold.. the boards here would go into meltdown but it would probably help CC start to pick a balanced side and finally get the best out of this squad. Edited June 4, 2017 by Earlsfieldowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: The only way this will be broken is if Bannan, Lee or Hutch get sold.. the boards here would go into meltdown but it would probably help CC start to pick a balanced side and finally get the best out of this squad. Hutch at CB does the trick. Glenn can't last forever and it gets us back to having two CMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: The only way this will be broken is if Bannan, Lee or Hutch get sold.. the boards here would go into meltdown but it would probably help CC start to pick a balanced side and finally get the best out of this squad. Prefer this, but your point is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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