Lord Snooty Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: carvalhals fault he wasn't a success. How's so? Has Carlos been intermittently knocking him out with chloroform and then getting his tool kit out and hacking away at his ankles, knees , groin and anything else to make sure he was too unfit and injured to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Lord Snooty said: How's so? Has Carlos been intermittently knocking him out with chloroform and then getting his tool kit out and hacking away at his ankles, knees , groin and anything else to make sure he was too unfit and injured to play? didn't give him any decent run of games early doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Needs to play in the middle. Found it strange last season when we signed him and CC said he needed a special programme to get fit, surely at Watford he had trained and played on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: didn't give him any decent run of games early doors Possibly because he didn't look match fit. He didn't to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 37 minutes ago, York_Owl said: The simple solution to that would be to change our system to a three man central midfield. Sign someone like Huddlestone / Mooy to go with Lee and Abdi and we would control games in the same way Huddersfield controlled the game against us. Huddersfield controlled the game? They had it easy because we made it easy for them. Wagnar is laughing all the way to Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyowl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 39 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: So who would miss out to accommodate Abdi ? Assuming Carlos sticks with his 4-4-2 Difficult to tell, as he's not been given the chance to pair with anyone. I love Bannan, and think he works his testicles off, and gets some undue stick from the fans, but he's had points where he's been out of form. I'd be putting Hutch at the back anyway, so Abdi and Lee in the centre, should he be able to knock Bannan out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, pompeyowl said: Abdi is absolute magic when fit and played in position. I was so excited to see him this season after seeing him play against Port Vale in the pre season fixture. Gutted not to have seen stamp his mark on this season. Fingers crossed he gets back to full fitness, and can excite us next season. I think he can/will prove himself here but if will only occur under a new manager - I dont think it will even happen under Carlos. All the time Bannan Lee and Hutch are here in set the current regime, they will continue to be selected whenever possible, irrespective of form. if I were Abdi and CC stays, id probably hand in a transfer request... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Would love to see him come good but I do feel while ever Carlos is here he will be overlooked in favour of Lee and Bannan, he might get a game on the wing if he's lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Blue and white said: Would love to see him come good but I do feel while ever Carlos is here he will be overlooked in favour of Lee and Bannan, he might get a game on the wing if he's lucky. Wasted if so mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Andoverowl said: Wasted if so mate. Couldn't agree more, I think we could sign any midfielder in the world and Carlos would stick with Bannan and Lee. Have to feel sorry for Abdi, head and shoulders above what we have and is totally misused, bit like Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Abdi and Forestieri need to play for a manager that plays a formation like 4231 or 433. Not sure it will happen here under Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I keep wondering about John Sheridan and how he didn't fit in at Leeds. That's how I see Abdi with us right now - he could come good easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 If we revert back to a 433, we could see something like this. Westwood Hunt Lees Loovens Reach Hutch Lee Abdi Nando Hooper Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I have seen lots of players come to Hillsbrough with big reputations who turned out to be pants. Long term injuries overtook many of them and they vanished from sight, taking our cash with them and without a care in the world. Unfortunately the odds against Abdi becoming a Wednesday ledgend are long. More likley to follow in the foot steps of Vim Jonk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, outlaw pete said: I have seen lots of players come to Hillsbrough with big reputations who turned out to be pants. Long term injuries overtook many of them and they vanished from sight, taking our cash with them and without a care in the world. Unfortunately the odds against Abdi becoming a Wednesday ledgend are long. More likley to follow in the foot steps of Vim Jonk. That Vim fella certainly took us to the cleaners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Not the only one, we have long list of Vim jonk's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I actually thought we'd seen the end of players coming to us and wasting away. But last season it seemed to happen again which was a concern to add to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: I actually thought we'd seen the end of players coming to us and wasting away. But last season it seemed to happen again which was a concern to add to the list I too thought those days were behind us. Edited May 21, 2017 by outlaw pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Greenhgate Owl said: good player once fit he takes bannans place in the team This for me as well. Better player than Bannan, and in the right set up, he'd be our Mooy. Edited May 21, 2017 by IstillhateSteveBould Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Southie_Owl said: Abdi and Forestieri need to play for a manager that plays a formation like 4231 or 433. Not sure it will happen here under Carlos Probably right, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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