0wl18 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I don't mind Reach. He's usually solid. Last night he struggled. He seemed to lose all footballing ability in a heartbeat. He is incredibly one footed, never really noticed until last night but everything is on the left foot. This meant we were slow and wasteful down the left because a lot of the time he was under pressure straight away, his inability to take the ball in on the half turn with his weaker foot cost us a few times. Everyone's entitled to a bad game every now and then, id argue he's had more good than bad performances in a Wednesday shirt. He's a confidence player IMO. If he makes a few early errors you're carrying him for 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: In his early games he looked as though he had the potential to be a good player but then putting him at left back wasn't ideal because tackling and heading aren't his strengths. If he can't tackle and he can't head he should be playing Sunday League football with the rest of the gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 52 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: SCAPEGOOOOOOOOOOOOAT He's been one of our better players over the last 10 games IMO. And I didn't think he did that badly last night, he had to come on after 3 minutes for goodness sake. We paid £5m because he's young and had a decent length contract left and came with the Premier League tax. Give the lad a break and get behind him rather than slagging him off. He never shirks his responsibility and always gives max effort. You sir are in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, CS5swfc said: He had Fernando stepping on his toes all night because he bottled the battle up top. New whipping boy! Anyone would think the 5m came out of your accounts. I think there is maybe with the right nurturing and development he could be a very different player to what we've seen so far. To me he looks often like a lost kid with a lack of confidence in himself and struggling to live up to his price tag/billing at the start of the campaign, was fantastic for Preston last year, we've seen a different player so far. He'll run all day and his work rate is comparable to KL, so you can't fault him for that,fir me he just needs a manager capable of giving him that belief in himself and adding a bit of bite to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 His main problems are for a winger he ain't that fast, can't generally beat a man, not really a goal threat , the other problem is 5 million doesn't really justify a 'solid 'player price tag. You could have picked up a league one winger who will offer good team work and work rate. We needed a winger who can beat a man e.g. Bakary sako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He needs to be given a settled position in the side. Listening to a game recently he seemed to start on the wing then get moved to midfield and ended up in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheowls Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 44 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: If Hooper had been fit we would have played the 11 that gave us our winning run before the Fulham...you can't legislate for injuries eg Wallace going off...and with a full squad we would have had McManaman , Buckley and Abdi on the bench...lot more options Are Mcmanaman and Buckley injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 he should have started last night and FF should have been benched this team I'm confident would have won us the tie last night. We were unlucky with wallace's injury, that was a huge blow westwood hunt loovens lees pudil wallace lee (who was awful last night all things considered) bannan reach winnall fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetherivelinowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Early on in his time here I wrote a piece saying I thought he was poor. My point was that he offered no attacking threat. I then reassessed and argued that Carlos kept picking him because he fitted his chosen system - hard-working 'wingers' who tuck in and defend the space in front of the back 4 making us very hard to break down. It hasn't been pretty to watch but we've consistently picked up points over the last few months so who am I to slag off a player who is integral to what we do? BUT, and I've watched him very carefully ever since, he really is frustratingly average at best. The number of times we have a lovely flowing move going until it gets to Reach then, oh dear, he's cocked it up again. Now we're all saying that the system has been too negative - if we abandon that system then Reach has nothing to offer. Yes he works hard but 2 strikers up top can't do it on their own and cant do anything without service. Reach has never been useful to them. Please lets ditch the system and Reach with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He's never been a winger in a month of sundays. Can't believe Carlos can't see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOwl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The only way we will ever get any use out of him is if we can convert him to a LB/LWB. That's gonna take some doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccswfc Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Yes he runs around cant fault his effort but he offers absolutely zilch going forward game was crying out for a mcmannaman or even one of the U23s who offers something a little bit different with a bit of pace, we had no width we had no plan B feel a bit sorry for reach in the end cos I think Carlos is telling him to play as a 2nd left back he isn't a winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Owlbert Einstein said: Completely agree about Reach, I've never seen such a slow player, But surely you can't question the signing of Rhodes, I'd say 90% of the Championship would of taken him given his record. Fair enough he's not lived up to expectations yet, but surely in the long run he will get goals, if given decent service. Rhodes looks a diminished figure, weak, tired, uncoordinated, and short of confidence. He just scoots around hoping that a nice chance will fall to his feet. He will be a gamble and frankly we should try to wriggle out of it unless we have to keep him e.g. because the other three leading strikers do not stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 38 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said: I think there is maybe with the right nurturing and development he could be a very different player to what we've seen so far. To me he looks often like a lost kid with a lack of confidence in himself and struggling to live up to his price tag/billing at the start of the campaign, was fantastic for Preston last year, we've seen a different player so far. He'll run all day and his work rate is comparable to KL, so you can't fault him for that,fir me he just needs a manager capable of giving him that belief in himself and adding a bit of bite to his game. Just can't think why with all the moral support on here!!! Thought he was the only one trying to go forward at pace, but as usual the judge & jury have already decided their verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Just can't think why with all the moral support on here!!! Thought he was the only one trying to go forward at pace, but as usual the judge & jury have already decided their verdict. I wasn't pulling him down bud unlike others, just an observation that I think he's still a work in progress that needs some work to make him a really good player. I've often defended reach when he's been slagged off, but I do think there's elements in his game that need improvement and can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Just can't think why with all the moral support on here!!! Thought he was the only one trying to go forward at pace, but as usual the judge & jury have already decided their verdict. Agree, Reach was positive carried the ball up the pitch and had the beating of a very competent RB on numerous occasions. Granted a few deliveries weren't great but that's football, he will become one of our best assets. Young, English, comfortable on the ball. His delivery, decision making and toughness will only improve Pleased to have him Edited May 18, 2017 by Ash76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Reach is a good player, good engine, runs all day long. Some don't like the price tag which is fine but it isn't my concern. Let Reach mature and he has the potential to be a top player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, shezzas left peg said: I wasn't pulling him down bud unlike others, just an observation that I think he's still a work in progress that needs some work to make him a really good player. I've often defended reach when he's been slagged off, but I do think there's elements in his game that need improvement and can be. Sorry mate i realise that. Reading it back it looks like i was having a pop at you. Not the case. I just used your quote to make a point about some of the dog's abuse aimed at Reach which i think is mainly unjustified and eventually becomes a self fulfilling prophesy as he loses MORE confidence and then gets slagged even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Sorry mate i realise that. Reading it back it looks like i was having a pop at you. Not the case. I just used your quote to make a point about some of the dog's abuse aimed at Reach which i think is mainly unjustified and eventually becomes a self fulfilling prophesy as he loses MORE confidence and then gets slagged even more. Yeah exactly, it can't be easy finding yourself somewhere new with a big price tag and expectations, then getting shuffled around like an old deck of cards not letting you settle into your usual position and developing an understanding with the players in your area of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 All he's done for two matches is lose the ball, contributes nothing in the final third, complete waste of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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