Hawkeye Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Horses for courses. Hutch played as many games as he did a) because he was in fantastic form, and b) we had a shortage of midfielders. CC will play him if he thinks we need him, but if everyone is fit and available with Reach, FF, Rhodes and Hooper now in the mix, i cant see him dropping Lee and Bannan right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Hutch, Lee, Bannan and the newly-improved Jones all fit for the play-offs....how good is that dilemma? Helps the subs bench too cos Hutch could cover CB instead of Sasso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, alanharper said: Alongside Lee, in place of Bannan. Lee and Bannan together in midfield is not the answer. Got overpowered at timed last season and will happen again in this one. Having Lee back is good but it creates more complication for CC. Fewer options he has, the easier he had found it to select a balanced team. Having said that Lee is the better player IMO so Bannan gets the chop if it comes to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Earlsfieldowl said: Lee and Bannan together in midfield is not the answer. Got overpowered at timed last season and will happen again in this one. Having Lee back is good but it creates more complication for CC. Fewer options he has, the easier he had found it to select a balanced team. Having said that Lee is the better player IMO so Bannan gets the chop if it comes to it. That's why I said that, Hutchinson and Lee are our two best central midfielders imo, yet I got several negs for saying I'd play them together - which means that some people would either drop our best defensive ballwinning central midfielder, or our only central midfielder who carries any attacking threat, in favour of Bannan who doesn't really do those things as well as the other two. I've nothing against Bannan, he's a quality footballer, but sometimes I do wonder what he's actually offering other than a lot of sideways passes and the occasional neat turn and Hollywood ball out to the wing. If we're playing a 442 midfield it's got to be Hutchinson and Lee in the middle for me, although I do like the look of a 4312 with Hutch, Lee and Bannan across the middle and Forestieri playing between them and a front two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, Holmowl said: My biggest fear is Carlos doing exactly that v Fulham and the Play-Offs. 3 CMs and FF up top as a result. I hate this, In a 4-4-2, I agree, but if we were to change formation to a 4-3-3 we could get the best of both worlds. Hutch could play at the base of a three man central midfield and Forestieri in the outside left position of a front three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, York_Owl said: In a 4-4-2, I agree, but if we were to change formation to a 4-3-3 we could get the best of both worlds. Hutch could play at the base of a three man central midfield and Forestieri in the outside left position of a front three. Wallace, right now, is one of our most important and impressive players. He was our most important player in the Play-Offs last year. Its kid in a sweet shop time, but I think while it's not broken don't try to fix it. Leave any new options for the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Holmowl said: Wallace, right now, is one of our most important and impressive players. He was our most important player in the Play-Offs last year. Its kid in a sweet shop time, but I think while it's not broken don't try to fix it. Leave any new options for the bench. I wouldn't drop Wallace. He could play on the right of a front three but, I'd really like to see him play on the right of a three man central midfield especially as Lee has only just come back from a long lay off. He could provide a bit of that creative spark in midfield that we still seem to be lacking, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, York_Owl said: I wouldn't drop Wallace. He could play on the right of a front three but, I'd really like to see him play on the right of a three man central midfield especially as Lee has only just come back from a long lay off. He could provide a bit of that creative spark in midfield that we still seem to be lacking, So Wallace Hutch Bannan Hooper Rhodes/Fletcher FF I can't see Carlos switching from 442 to 433 after he has stuck with it for every game except Rotherham. He has used 433 in late stages when we have needed a goal and it has worked well, but can't see him starting 433 at this critical stage. I thought this worked brilliantly on Saturday... Wallace Bannan Reach Hooper Rhodes Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 29 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: Lee and Bannan together in midfield is not the answer. Got overpowered at timed last season and will happen again in this one. Having Lee back is good but it creates more complication for CC. Fewer options he has, the easier he had found it to select a balanced team. Having said that Lee is the better player IMO so Bannan gets the chop if it comes to it. Which games do you think Lee Bannan were overpowered? I don't recall any. I am biased cos I think they are comfortably our best pairing, but if you can point some out fair-dos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Been training all week according to BB at press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, sheriwozgod said: Been training all week according to BB at press conference. We need as many fit players as poss for the run in, cc may put him straight in against Ipswich to rough them up, we don't need to be fancy Saturday to win and we all know cc is a master at winning this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Still think that in games where we're over run this triumvirate is the answer. ..............Hutchinson .....Lee......................Bannan Hutchinson would find it a doddle in that role. And it would free the other two up to raid forward where they are at their best. Wallace, Reach, Fernando, Buckley, McManaman all capable of playing the wide forward roles. And all have done at various stages of their careers. Don't think we'll see it any time soon though because of the sheer number of 'down the middle' experienced centre forwards we have on the books. All of whom seem to operate better with a partner than wide support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The worry about rushing Hutch back to "rough them up" is not only that he quickly breaks down again like at Barnsley, but also that he gets it wrong if he's a bit rusty and picks up a straight red which would mean him missing the Fulham game and all 3 play off matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 hours ago, crookesowl said: Great player but would you start him again this season? Where would he fit in a squad with Bannan and Lee? hopefully bazza will fit in on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Yes. If we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Bench needs to be stronger than what's on the pitch, so they can alter a game.. Rhodes, Forestieri, Hutchinson, McManaman, Nuhiu, Palmer, Wildsmith.... is probably the best bench in The Championship. Whoever is fittest between Lee and Jones starts, both underrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, bigash_swfc said: Bench needs to be stronger than what's on the pitch, so they can alter a game.. Rhodes, Forestieri, Hutchinson, McManaman, Nuhiu, Palmer, Wildsmith.... is probably the best bench in The Championship. Whoever is fittest between Lee and Jones starts, both underrated A fit Fessi and Hutch will start every game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I would make sure he gets some game time between now and playoffs. I would start him against Fulham or Reading, I think a fit Hutch would make the difference against either of these sides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Live the Dream said: First name on the sheet for me. Totally committed, good player, good tackler, would be my captain on the day. A scary opponent. Build the rest around him. This... him and Lee in central midfield if both fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ViolaOwls said: hopefully bazza will fit in on the bench Can't agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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