vulva Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, Donny El said: Sorry guys but it's only a RE take if the defending team encroach. If the attacking team encroach it's a free kick. That's according to the book had some refs on radio earlier confirming it. Also a well know local ex ref was not too pleased this morning that he was getting so much stick after getting decision correct . Why has the ref apologised then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 9 hours ago, RocketOwl said: The ref at the centre of the Newcastle game - was he not the ref at home to Brentford was it, when he completely lost the game in the first half. He did not give Fernando a pen, he kept getting hacked down and then he booked FF for a very limited tackle. If that is the ref - Karma. Not heard of him. Has he reffed us this season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Donny El said: Sorry guys but it's only a RE take if the defending team encroach. If the attacking team encroach it's a free kick. That's according to the book had some refs on radio earlier confirming it. Also a well know local ex ref was not too pleased this morning that he was getting so much stick after getting decision correct . That's rubbish. If that were the case, the defending team would encroach every time and prevent the other team scoring! You can download the Laws of the Game from the FIFA website. It clearly states that it's a retake if the attacking team encroach AND the penalty is scored. It's a free kick to the defending team if the attacking team encroaches but they fail to score. If the defending team encroach and the penalty is scored, the goal stands. If the defending team encroach and the kick is missed, it's also a retake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Griptite Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 In my eyes he got the decision 1/3 correct. The correct decision was an indirect free kick for Burton due to the Newcastle player encroaching and two indirect free kicks to Newcastle for the Burton players encroaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I must be living under a rock cos I've no idea what's happened. I'm assuming Newcastle missed the pen and the ref gave Burton a free kick for encroachment. I'd have thought it'd be a retake. Looking at the still above its harsh to punish Newcastle and reward Burton based on the players positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: I must be living under a rock cos I've no idea what's happened. I'm assuming Newcastle missed the pen and the ref gave Burton a free kick for encroachment. I'd have thought it'd be a retake. Looking at the still above its harsh to punish Newcastle and reward Burton based on the players positions. They scored the pen but the ref gave the free kick to Burton based on Gayle encroaching. The rule is if he had missed then it would be a free kick to Burton. If he scored then a retake should be ordered. Referee got it wrong and everyone knew bar him hence the meltdown everywhere last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, northeastowl said: They scored the pen but the ref gave the free kick to Burton based on Gayle encroaching. The rule is if he had missed then it would be a free kick to Burton. If he scored then a retake should be ordered. Referee got it wrong and everyone knew bar him hence the meltdown everywhere last night. Wow. I remember deon Burton had to retake a pen against the pigs didn't he? Encroachment by our players. He missed the retake. Anyone else remember this? Maybe it wasn't against the pigs. As the Burton players were encroaching too I'd have said a retake would be harsh. This decision gives the defending team a huge advantage. They can encroach and if an attacker does the goal is wiped out. As most penalties are scored that's a calculated risk worth taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: Wow. I remember deon Burton had to retake a pen against the pigs didn't he? Encroachment by our players. He missed the retake. Anyone else remember this? Maybe it wasn't against the pigs. As the Burton players were encroaching too I'd have said a retake would be harsh. This decision gives the defending team a huge advantage. They can encroach and if an attacker does the goal is wiped out. As most penalties are scored that's a calculated risk worth taking. But... If the defending team encroach and the pen is missed then a retake is ordered. If it's scored and they encroach then the goal is given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Who was our ref v Reading who made Rhodes leave the pitch after treatment even though he'd booked there player for the challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Strouded in mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'd like to see more lady referees. Ideal role for them. Keeping blokes on a tight leash, making sure they don't get away with anything, and knowing what's best for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePiusX Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 He's been punished for his awfulness by not being allowed to referee Gillingham versus Millwall. I bet he's gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockieOwl Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 19 hours ago, owlZfan84 said: Thank foooooook for that - opened this thread fully expecting Stroud to be in charge at the weekend. It's ok lads, we've got Stuart Attwell in charge this weekend. I'm sure he reffed the last home game we had against Newcastle, the 2-2 about 6 or 7 years ago? He had a shocker but did give us a generous goal. Think it was Varney jumping with Harper. Thought he would give a foul but let it stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Binky Griptite said: In my eyes he got the decision 1/3 correct. The correct decision was an indirect free kick for Burton due to the Newcastle player encroaching and two indirect free kicks to Newcastle for the Burton players encroaching. That still wouldn't be correct. Using your rationale it should be an indirect free-kick for Burton due to the Newcastle player encroaching, but two goals to Newcastle for the Burton players encroaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I think the major problem with refs is there is no way in hell that they have played a game of football in their lives. Whether it's to a decent standard or just Sunday league. They use little common sense, don't know the rules. Don't seem to know what's natural for players to do, as in how they fall, what direction, don't pay attention to change in direction of the ball especially when keepers make a challenge. Let's me honest 90%+ are abysmal. I think if would only change if former players started to ref. Although that would never happen and nobody in the right mind would want to be a ref anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Donny El said: Sorry guys but it's only a RE take if the defending team encroach. If the attacking team encroach it's a free kick. That's according to the book had some refs on radio earlier confirming it. Also a well know local ex ref was not too pleased this morning that he was getting so much stick after getting decision correct . Sorry to have to correct you but the referee and assistants got it completely wrong. If a defender encroaches it is only a retake if the penalty is missed, the goal stands if scored. What book are you referring to? It is obviously not the 'Laws of association football'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePiusX Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 ACTUALLY LADS, the rule is as follows: If a player is taking a 12-yard penalty spot-kick and one of his pals encroaches into the forbidden zone, the penalty must be retaken; this and every subsequent offence however results in the penalty being retaken with a less favourable part of the body, the order of which is to be established upon careful examination of the taker. We used John Ebbrell as our example, and recommend the following order 1. Foot 2. Arm/Hand 3. Knee 4. Leg (other) 5. Head 6. Face 7. Thorax 8. Botty 9. Winky 10. Breath 11. All other parts of body 12. Shatner's Bassoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 What have you done today, to make you feel Stroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, PopePiusX said: ACTUALLY LADS, the rule is as follows: If a player is taking a 12-yard penalty spot-kick and one of his pals encroaches into the forbidden zone, the penalty must be retaken; this and every subsequent offence however results in the penalty being retaken with a less favourable part of the body, the order of which is to be established upon careful examination of the taker. We used John Ebbrell as our example, and recommend the following order 1. Foot 2. Arm/Hand 3. Knee 4. Leg (other) 5. Head 6. Face 7. Thorax 8. Botty 9. Winky 10. Breath 11. All other parts of body 12. Shatner's Bassoon Plus one for Shatners Bassoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick First two lines of section 3 re. encroachment explain it. Trouble is, encroachment is rarely enforced, everybody and his dog is often in the area the moment of the kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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