RockieOwl

He had 3 games last time? Forest, Burton, Brentford. Maybe 4 including the cup game at Carlisle. So 3 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats

Fully understand everyone's concerns. Just giving my take on it. Plus noone really needs to convince me to get a big majority wanting him out. If he's out now, so be it. I'm not calling for his head just yet. However don't agree that we've had an easy run the last 10 games. 4 of the top 6, 3 of them being at home. Only 2 of the bottom 11 we have played in that time. Yes we should be doing better, even with the teams we have played, but easy on paper it hasn't been.

Just think he has been dealt a bad hand, not been able to bring his own players in and should be given that opportunity, even though I don't think he will do until this summer when a lot of big earners leave. Also, I am not sure a new manager would help us. Maybe in the short term due to a new manager, but they will still have the same squad and come March/April time we could be on a similar run to what we are on now. We have an easy run on paper coming up after the festive period and if we are in the same position as we are in after this run, say mid to late February, then he should go and attempt the get this run of games a new manager usually gives you to prevent the threat of going down. Maybe if this bad run continues I may think he should go (I was starting to think this against Rotherham and may even change my mind tomorrow), but for now I think we just need to ride out this season, hiope we don't get dragged too near the bottom 3 and see what Jos can do bringing in his own players. I am not saying he will be great next season though, but he should be given a chance. Wagner is a good example to compare against.. Huddersfield didn't really do much when he first came in. He brought in his own players over the summer and they got in the playoffs with a team sheet quite different to the year before. Even look at his best mate Klopp, who has changed most of his team since he first came in.

I am one of the few people who don't want Jos to go. There maybe a good reason why he hasn't done it, but if not, even I can say that is cowardice and a horrible example to set

We don't have the players full stop. Not to do with the changing the formation. If we played 3-5-2 every game then I don't think we would do much better if at all. To answer your question though, maybe Jos is figuring out who can play to his methods and who can't. He's hardly had chance to bring his own players in which is why I think he could be given more time

So what is the point of getting rid of jos then? We are fizzed financially right now and jos I'm sure would need a payoff. Then we would need another wage as manager for no benefit. I see what you say about the questionable tactics and one thing that is mentioned a lot is his changing of formations but look at his record with Berlin on trabsfermarkt I think it is. He changes formations regularly for them and it worked. Hell it works for Leeds who switch formation between 3 and 4 at the back. Unfortunately we just don't have the players

So I see a poll of jos in or out and post my opinion. But apparently I'm a blade or chansiri himself. Sorry that I don't have the same opinion as the rest of you. 97% in fact. So I realise I'm in the minority big style and it's rare that I'm defending the manager when so many people want him out but I feel he's been dealt a very bad hand and now I have to defend myself. Is he doing a good job? Of course not! But it could be a lot worse. We have good players at the club but only a few and I actually think if you take away some of the players who are not playing jos is dealing with one of the lowest wage bills in the league. Once a lot of the players out of contract are off the wagebill in the summer and jos can finally bring his own players in, then I will judge him. What happens if we sack him now and his replacement has no effect? It's just a waste of money. If things nosedive and we are threatening relegation around march time then maybe I will agree he has to go. Have a look at our fixtures in January and February. We should... should... pick up quite a few points so I think we just need to ride this season out. Sorry for not agreeing with everyone else.

I was just going to ask about Van Aken. Is he playing midfield? Or is the formation 3-5-2? He's not been great in defence has he, but I could see him as a defensive midfielder

Thought he was a lot better than he actually is

I admit there will be a decrease. But it's not going to be a dramatic decrease. There wasn't a dramatic decrease in the dave Allen years or the other time we were in league 1 in recent years. I cannot see how the money saved from Jones, Westwood, Abdi, Matias, Boyd, Hooper, Lee will be anywhere near the money lost from a couple of thousand season tickets. I realise we will still have to tread carefully with money spent as we need to follow a 3 year cycle for P&S and it may even be the next season after next before we can splash the cash again but next season he should still be able to bring a few more players in of his own. Only then I think we will be able to tell if he is the right man for the job

I would take finishing 17th right now. A few other people would too. I understand people wanna get promoted now and it's even worse that United are fighting for the top 2 positions but with the team we have now, the age of it and the injuries, it was always unrealistic that we would finish anywhere near the top 6. It was nice when we were 6th and most people were surprised at the time so why there's a surprise we are currently the lower end of mid table now I'm not sure. I don't think anyone who doesn't want jos out now are convinced he will do the business next year but they recognise the absolute state of a squad that Carlos left him with and no money to spend at all. Once a lot of the big earners are off the wage bill next year who's contract expires in the summer and he can bring in his own players, then the judge will be out properly

Burton at home last year. Terrible today but it can be turned around. QPR are a good example of this

It also means we don't have many fit attacking players available. The players that people are complaining about not even making the bench and say are frozen out are not attacking either

I love that people are complaining that Fox has been dropped for Penney when 2 games ago people were complaining that Penney had been dropped for Fox

Where have you got that from? Sounds right. Cardiff had underachieved before but interested in seeing the wage league