casbahowl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Carlos was about to sub him before the first goal. Being subbed in the first half would have been pretty damming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 30 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Sorry I've maybe put my question badly. You've stated that Joao is the 4th choice striker. I'm wanting to know the other 3, which you must know to declare Joao as 4th. Are you able to fill in? 1: ? 2: ? 3: ? 4: Joao No. With the exception that very occasionally I would see Fletch as a lone striker, I have realised that strike partnerships come as a package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 14 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Carlos was about to sub him before the first goal. Being subbed in the first half would have been pretty damming. You sure? I thought it might be Bannan. I was intruiged to see who was going to be subbed so early. But fair play to Carlos. It was so clearly not working before that goal, and a Mourhino-esque willingness to admit that is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Adam1867 said: He's not good enough. I keep hearing he is a young lad, give him time. He's 23. From what I can see, he has only improved in one area and that is his strength. Send him back to Portugal. Another rubbish signing. Agree, hes just not good enough if you want a top six finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EighteenSixty7 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I've never seen a player with so little balance, I expect him to fall over the minute he tries to move with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, EighteenSixty7 said: I've never seen a player with so little balance, I expect him to fall over the minute he tries to move with the ball. It's like he's running a bouncy castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Bluesteel said: That miss the other day has obviously had an effect on him. I don't think he has had a bad attitude this season. But he isn't aggressive enough and I'm not sure that can be coached Don't forget the Brentford miss earlier in the season too. The lads confidence must be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19owl08 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Mentally he doesn't seem to have got to grips with the physicality of the game in this league. As soon as he gets knocked & isn't given a freekick you can see his head drops. Likewise when he challenges a defender & gives a freekick away he then becomes reluctant to challenge again. He needs to look at Forestieri, Fletcher & Hooper to see how they get the same treatment but keep going. He needs that little bit of arrogance that all good strikers have.... he just seems too nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Bluesteel said: That miss the other day has obviously had an effect on him. I don't think he has had a bad attitude this season. But he isn't aggressive enough and I'm not sure that can be coached Did well last night, but I think a lack of aggression in Reach, will limit his potential to go right to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 He's a confidence player. And he was clearly playing with none last night, the Reading sitters probably drained him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Ever since Joao got his tooth knocked out last season, his game seems to have lost that little bit of bite.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 55 minutes ago, Stainless1983 said: Mentally he doesn't seem to have got to grips with the physicality of the game in this league. As soon as he gets knocked & isn't given a freekick you can see his head drops. Likewise when he challenges a defender & gives a freekick away he then becomes reluctant to challenge again. He needs to look at Forestieri, Fletcher & Hooper to see how they get the same treatment but keep going. He needs that little bit of arrogance that all good strikers have.... he just seems too nice. Agree, think English football is just too physical for him. Will do well at some mid level team on the continent in a league that's less physical and where he gets more time on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Ever since Joao got his tooth knocked out last season, his game seems to have lost that little bit of bite.. I remember him being in tears about that which probably shows just how much he doesn't like the physical side of the game. I'm not trying to knock the lad but can you imagine someone like Fletcher doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Chardron said: Reach is the same age as him and a class above. Yep, I say hes a few classes above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: Agree, think English football is just too physical for him. Will do well at some mid level team on the continent in a league that's less physical and where he gets more time on the ball. But you think training with Fletcher and Nuhiu you'd learn how to handle yourself on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: I remember him being in tears about that which probably shows just how much he doesn't like the physical side of the game. I'm not trying to knock the lad but can you imagine someone like Fletcher doing that. Fletchers head after that clash with Tommy Elphick at the beginning of the season. Imagine if that was Joao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: You sure? I thought it might be Bannan. I was intruiged to see who was going to be subbed so early. But fair play to Carlos. It was so clearly not working before that goal, and a Mourhino-esque willingness to admit that is great. Yes mate definitely. Got back to the car in time for Carlos 's interview on RS and he stated clearly Joao was the one coming off. The goal , he said, changed the dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Yes mate definitely. Got back to the car in time for Carlos 's interview on RS and he stated clearly Joao was the one coming off. The goal , he said, changed the dynamic. Ta. I did wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyOwl Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Joao's form has been awful these past few games and he's wasting a great opportunity to make an impact on the first team. Although he has all the right attributes he's just too nice for championship football and his lack of aggression makes it too easy for centre backs to stick him in their back pocket all game. His confidence is ruined and he always gets either pushed off the ball or shifts it on quickly. Think back to when we first signed him when his confidence was so high he was often guilty of trying to do too much with the ball and taking on one too many defenders. Having said that I'd still start him for the game against Rotherham as, with FF out, he's the only real genuine pace in the side that we have. He makes the opposition defence worry about the ball in behind and was almost in a couple of times last night. This forces the opposition back giving us that little bit extra space to play. A front two of say Fletcher and Reach would be far too static and can't see a 5 man midfield breaking down Rotherham unless we can accommodate an extra playmaker which, abdi aside, we don't really have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, MightyOwl said: Joao's form has been awful these past few games and he's wasting a great opportunity to make an impact on the first team. Although he has all the right attributes he's just too nice for championship football and his lack of aggression makes it too easy for centre backs to stick him in their back pocket all game. His confidence is ruined and he always gets either pushed off the ball or shifts it on quickly. Think back to when we first signed him when his confidence was so high he was often guilty of trying to do too much with the ball and taking on one too many defenders. Having said that I'd still start him for the game against Rotherham as, with FF out, he's the only real genuine pace in the side that we have. He makes the opposition defence worry about the ball in behind and was almost in a couple of times last night. This forces the opposition back giving us that little bit extra space to play. A front two of say Fletcher and Reach would be far too static and can't see a 5 man midfield breaking down Rotherham unless we can accommodate an extra playmaker which, abdi aside, we don't really have Good post. Pace upsets any defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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