Guest Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Regardless of whether it was a red or not I'm going to put this out there... Hutchinson is a fücking liability when at centre back. There. I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, darra said: So you're saying it was a correct straight red where as about half a dozen others on here are saying tha rule has cahnged and it wasn't. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 After looking back IMO Hutchinson made no attempt to play the ball. Therefore the rule is immaterial and its a red card. Remember this is also down to the referee's opinion of the challenge too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross owl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Bullshit. Players have a right to safety. At what point was our player in any danger , it's football not lion taming . I'm not advocating throwing yourself at a knee height ball you have no chance of winning with both your feet aiming for their knee or trying to decapitate a player by trying to volley it off of or through his head but they are trying to turn it into a non contact sport . But they could all get some high vizs and hard hats if they want . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 CC said in his interview that the ref (or the 4th official) told him the sending off was for deliberate handball. So given the video evidence would completely exonerate him of handball, I'm assuming we'll appeal this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 33 minutes ago, Libertine said: Anyone else think O'Neil won the ball? Yes he clearly got the ball. The ref dropped a clanger sending Hutch off and evened it up by sending O'Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, cross owl said: At what point was our player in any danger , it's football not lion taming . I'm not advocating throwing yourself at a knee height ball you have no chance of winning with both your feet aiming for their knee or trying to decapitate a player by trying to volley it off of or through his head but they are trying to turn it into a non contact sport . But they could all get some high vizs and hard hats if they want . Clearly you've lost this argument, as shown by using these ridiculous examples Let me give you a better one. The tackle that maimed Luke Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 https://twitter.com/Gazoneil/status/775807307779309568/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 It's a penalty, no doubting that. Can't see how it's a red though. Should get turned over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Regardless, O'Neil was an idiot because the ref is always gonna look to even a game up by sending one of their men off too. It was fresh in the mind and bam he's running a bath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross owl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Clearly you've lost this argument, as shown by using these ridiculous examples Let me give you a better one. The tackle that maimed Luke Shaw. I'm not saying you can do what you like and steam into players like skittles as long as you get your toe to the ball I'm just saying that it is slowly becoming a sport that you don't go to ground for at all . I'm not arguing as I think it's becoming less and less a sport that you can go to ground and win the ball for and you don't . Simply an opinion and like bottoms everyone has one . And no I'm not advocating tackles that maimed Luke Shaw or anything close to it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Multi billion pound sport and still no referrals , it's costing teams points and money. In this day of modern digital coverage it's time FIFA and UEFA put something in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Di Catio Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 50 minutes ago, modboy said: 50 minutes ago, modboy said: https://twitter.com/Gazoneil/status/775807307779309568/photo/1 Was from behind and you can get cards for arguing. Ask David Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Ian said: Christ the lack of understanding of the new rules is astounding.....the only change is that if the player has made a genuine attempt to go for the ball and commits a foul in the area then it's a yellow.....anything else which denies an obvious goals coring opportunity including handball, pushing or shirt pulling is still a straight red. Would have to see it again before I could form a judgement on today's red This. No attempt to play ball almost a rugby tackle. Ref got that spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, edwardjameswells said: CC said in his interview that the ref (or the 4th official) told him the sending off was for deliberate handball. So given the video evidence would completely exonerate him of handball, I'm assuming we'll appeal this. I thought when hutch went to ground he knocked ball away with his hand? In which case right decision ... Was my view but again only saw it live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, darra said: so a referee not knowing a rule change that he was no doubt told about a few weeks ago could have resulted in us losing the game after having a player wrongly sent off. Just isnt good enough and needs addressing Hmm, if Bristol had stuck that pen away, that's us 3-1 down, 10 men vs 11 men with roughly 30 mins left to play. In a nutshell, game over. If we had gone onto lose from that position, I certainly wouldn't have been blaming the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Both red cards were justified in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Griptite Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Forgive my daft theory but this is a still of pretty much where the foul was committed, he's coming in from the side where the ball is there to be won (it's not like he's coming through the attacker to get the ball as the attacker has just nipped the ball away from Hutch with his right foot). Now invert Hutch so his feet are in front of him (the more typical tackling strategy!)... if he went feet first he'd have been even closer to nicking the ball away before the attacker. Ok, fact remains he isn't going with his feet but his head but you'd use the same timing, whether on your feet and tackling with your legs or stumbling forward to tackle with your head. So it's a pretty desperate attempt at a tackle but could it not be argued it is a genuine attempt at the ball, misstimed and worthy of a penalty and a yellow card but not a red under these new rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 21 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said: Not sure how anyone can argue having seen this. He's hacked the bloke in half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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