Socialist_Owl Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 16/08/2018 at 02:37, jamsandwich said: lost income of 5million per game missed, including the two NFL games. My heart absolutely bleeds. On 20/08/2018 at 10:46, Geedee said: The clue is in your reply the FA will make money out of this delay. In truth I don't know why its such a big issue for some people. What does it matter if Spurs play a few more games at Wembley? Their ground is a massive™ building project that's running behind schedule, it won't be the first and it won't be last. Yet another bloated edifice of soulless corporate dryrot. Etihad, Emirates, this hangar, all horrific, all aesthetically bankrupt. Community? Only if you pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: My heart absolutely bleeds. Yet another bloated edifice of soulless corporate dryrot. Etihad, Emirates, this hangar, all horrific, all aesthetically bankrupt. Community? Only if you pay up. When Hillsborough was redeveloped in the 60's I bet there were people who criticised the massive 'space age' North and west stands. What do you think Spurs should have done differently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: My heart absolutely bleeds. Yet another bloated edifice of soulless corporate dryrot. Etihad, Emirates, this hangar, all horrific, all aesthetically bankrupt. Community? Only if you pay up. I’d rather Wednesday had a first class stadium like Spurs than a dilapidated Hillsborough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Geedee said: When Hillsborough was redeveloped in the 60's I bet there were people who criticised the massive 'space age' North and west stands. What do you think Spurs should have done differently? Completely different, in terms of both scope and purpose. SWFC wasn't looking to price out most of the fans with that expansion, nor was the club chasing filthy lucre from the NFL. Edited January 6, 2019 by Socialist_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Spurs new ground is unbelievable. Definitely the best new built ground I’ve seen. In the future, I’m all for redeveloping Hillsborough as I prefer grounds with character and I dislike many new grounds such as Coventry. However, that Spurs ground is something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 15 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: My heart absolutely bleeds. Yet another bloated edifice of soulless corporate dryrot. Etihad, Emirates, this hangar, all horrific, all aesthetically bankrupt. Community? Only if you pay up. 11 hours ago, Geedee said: When Hillsborough was redeveloped in the 60's I bet there were people who criticised the massive 'space age' North and west stands. What do you think Spurs should have done differently? 2 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: Completely different, in terms of both scope and purpose. SWFC wasn't looking to price out most of the fans with that expansion, nor was the club chasing filthy lucre from the NFL. So if you think the Spurs ground is that bad what would you have done differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Geedee said: So if you think the Spurs ground is that bad what would you have done differently Edited January 6, 2019 by M Royds 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 That's awesome! Where is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The away fans enclosure at Miejski Klub Sportowy Znicz Pruszkow in Poland Pruszkow, Poland Reminds me of the away corner at the old den. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, M Royds said: The away fans enclosure at Miejski Klub Sportowy Znicz Pruszkow in Poland Pruszkow, Poland Reminds me of the away corner at the old den. The third and fourth matches I went to were at the Old Den. Probably explains my anxiety issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pacific said: That's awesome! Where is it? South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, Pacific said: That's awesome! Where is it? Don Valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Part of me thinks the new Spurs ground looks amazing, then part of me thinks it will just be another stadium full of corporates and tourists. I like that they've gone with a "Top" style single tier stand behind the goal, but it looks too spacious and I can't imagine it's going to generate a particularly good atmosphere as the roof is about half a mile above it! Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: My heart absolutely bleeds. Yet another bloated edifice of soulless corporate dryrot. Etihad, Emirates, this hangar, all horrific, all aesthetically bankrupt. Community? Only if you pay up. Some of the mid-90's to early 2000's grounds give the soulless impression - built in out-of-town areas with no connection to the club, many look similar and could be anyone's ground if you change the colour of the seats - Middlesbrough, Coventry, Derby, Bolton etc. The bigger teams seem to do things a bit differently. Man City was used for the commonwealth games but then developed into a proper football stadium as planned and the club have regenerated a whole area of the city to make a complex that has benefits across many levels and is admired within football. Spurs have chosen to build adjacent to their current ground which helps to maintain a traditional sense of their home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Some of the mid-90's to early 2000's grounds give the soulless impression - built in out-of-town areas with no connection to the club, many look similar and could be anyone's ground if you change the colour of the seats - Middlesbrough, Coventry, Derby, Bolton etc. The bigger teams seem to do things a bit differently. Man City was used for the commonwealth games but then developed into a proper football stadium as planned and the club have regenerated a whole area of the city to make a complex that has benefits across many levels and is admired within football. Spurs have chosen to build adjacent to their current ground which helps to maintain a traditional sense of their home. Agreed Spurs have redeveloped their existing and spiritual home - they remain rooted in the community from which they traditionally draw their support Arsenal moved a couple of streets away so their iconic "Arsenal" tube stop is still the nearest destination for those visiting the stadium - and just as near as ever. Spurs fans of a certain vintage will still refer to them as "that small South London club" - however they have been in their part of North London long enough for it to be regarded as "their manor" The Emirates is a beautiful stadium - as so looks the new Spurs stadium Spurs will still claim the high ground in as much as they are on the same site and will still be White Hart Lane - even if the naming rights are sold - ala Newcastle and the Sports Direct Stadium...has anybody in football ever really considered the Geordies played their home matches anywhere other than St James Park? I hate this "soulless bowl" crap - it has served many clubs very well to move out of utter shyteholes into brand new purpose built stadiums that serve their needs a whole lot better Different clubs have different dynamics - are Swansea better off being out of The Vetch? I really liked that quirky old ground btw - but it was ridiculous and mostly condemned by the time they relocated - but it's completely obvious they did the right thing I love Hillsborough - literally adore the place and i'm probably blind to all its shortcomings other than the embarrassing West Stand - i would rather us redevelop opur existing site and still call our ground Hillsborough - the ghosts of our bygone days would still roam. The history echoing through the fabric of the place - but for some it would just be a soulless bowl i guess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Drove past the Derby ground the other day, which has businesses open around the ground (part of the external part of the stadium); such as coffee shops, Greggs, etc. So they’ll be servicing other local businesses, whilst Derby get the rent. I’m sure many other clubs do the same; it’s all about location I suppose. What would work at Hillsborough? Edited January 6, 2019 by Rogers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsandwich Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 06/01/2019 at 22:01, scram said: Spurs will still claim the high ground in as much as they are on the same site and will still be White Hart Lane - even if the naming rights are sold - ala Newcastle and the Sports Direct Stadium...has anybody in football ever really considered the Geordies played their home matches anywhere other than St James Park? and yet know one knows the "proper" name of the Arsenal stadium?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, jamsandwich said: and yet know one knows the "proper" name of the Arsenal stadium?. Your right but with fairness I think it's been called the Emirates ever since it opened. Ashburton Grove is a bizarre choice imo, sounds like a cul de sac on a new housing estate The Emirates imo is the best ground in the league it will be interesting to see how White Hart Lane 2019 compares. An interesting fact about the Emirates is that it is virtually a twin of the new Benfica stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 06/01/2019 at 22:01, scram said: Spurs will still claim the high ground in as much as they are on the same site and will still be White Hart Lane - even if the naming rights are sold - ala Newcastle and the Sports Direct Stadium...has anybody in football ever really considered the Geordies played their home matches anywhere other than St James Park? The irony is that when Spurs first announced their plans, the mock-ups couldn't have been more 'naming rights'-centric. Do they even have a deal in place yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsandwich Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I actually thought they were dead against referring to it as "White Hart Lane"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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