Owl999 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Thai's have put the money up for the recent loan deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Thai's have put the money up for the recent loan deals. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Thai's have put the money up for the recent loan deals. guess? itk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaskedowl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Thai's have put the money up for the recent loan deals.Go on. Do you know this for certain? Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Loaning is scrounging. Borrowing players we can't afford and at the expense of others - by definition, that is scrounging. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it. It has been necessary to get us where we are. But let's call it what it really is not dress up as something else. There comes a time if we want to progress we'll need players of Lewis' quality that are our own. Loaning is part of football. It's essential for some clubs, and has benefited us tremendously in the past. Yes i agree it would be nice to get some of these players permanently, and in some cases we have done. For some of them, such as Barkley and Wickham, there is no chance. But to call it scrounging is harsh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 we'll miss out here, because we can't/won't spend money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 you can just smell BS on this, it dosen't add up, some optimist has put 2 and 2 together with ben watson signing for watford and got 4 Wouldn't that make him right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 time gentlemen pleae Somebody has to be interested in buying him, you may want to sell your house if nobody is prepared to buy it you're stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Loaning is part of football. It's essential for some clubs, and has benefited us tremendously in the past. Yes i agree it would be nice to get some of these players permanently, and in some cases we have done. For some of them, such as Barkley and Wickham, there is no chance. But to call it scrounging is harsh.... I don't think it's harsh. I don't put Wickham, Barkley, Baker and Keane in the same category anyway. They are the type of talented youngster the loan market should be tailored for. I'm ok with loaning from above because those players are beyond our reach as permanent signings. But when we're talking about someone like Lewis McGugan, we should aspire to get them on a permanent basis. We can't afford a squad loaded with players of that ilk - but one or two proven examples would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think we'll struggle to pull a deal off. If Watford want to sell we MIGHT be able to get a fee together, but the major issue is going to be wages. He must be on around £15k at Watford and I think we'd struggle to offer anything like that. Unless we can offload Kirkland, who is a high earner and sitting on the bench. depends on the player, if hes been ostracised at Watford he MIGHT take a hot on wages just to get playing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stowyowl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I don't think it's harsh. I don't put Wickham, Barkley, Baker and Keane in the same category anyway. They are the type of talented youngster the loan market should be tailored for. I'm ok with loaning from above because those players are beyond our reach as permanent signings. But when we're talking about someone like Lewis McGugan, we should aspire to get them on a permanent basis. We can't afford a squad loaded with players of that ilk - but one or two proven examples would be nice. Also, the difference with Wickham, Barkley and Baker to McGugan is their clubs were sending those players on loan for their development as well. The club sends them on loan, they get the experience of a good run of first team football and return to their parent club a better and more experienced player ready to challenge in the first team squad. Watford just want McGugan off their books. That said, I don't have any real objection to us signing McGugan on loan if we then sign him on a free in the summer, as bigdan said there is some good business sense there from our perspective, however I would prefer us to be trying to sign him permanently now as you can see it ending up with us missing out on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnowl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If the Thai's are only willing to pay for a striker with no senior goals then we don't want their investment. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 slightly depressing that pigs willing to pay 1.5 mill for a right back & we can't sign a player who is not wanted by his club so can probably sign for free! I wondered when this would come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I wondered when this would come up. My gf said the same thing last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My gf said the same thing last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 slightly depressing that pigs willing to pay 1.5 mill for a right back & we can't sign a player who is not wanted by his club so can probably sign for free! It would be if they were in the same division, but at the moment I can console myself with the fact that they are largely irrelevant At least we are only the paupers of this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 slightly depressing that pigs willing to pay 1.5 mill for a right back & we can't sign a player who is not wanted by his club so can probably sign for free! Not half as depressing as being sat outside the top 6 in your 4th year in the 3rd division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Thai's have put the money up for the recent loan deals. I've heard the same aswell from somebody with connections at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If the Thai's are only willing to pay for a striker with no senior goals then we don't want their investment. Just saying. Who is we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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