Football Regulation Bill to be published tomorrow

[Hoofit]

@Owlstalk Admin Team @HarrowbyOwl

 

Time for a Football Regulation thread in it’s own right now folks, so we can keep all the emerging information & debate in one place, maybe?

 

Known setting up a thread on here won’t stop Owlstalkers using every available opportunity of course….

 

Just a thought.

 

UTO!

[gypsyowl]

58 minutes ago, El Wednesday said:

We could do with the 50+1 rule, like they do in Germany. 

 

in theory yes, it secures the future of your football club but you'd get all the top players going abroad instead

[@owlstalk]

Timeline

August 2019: Bury are expelled from League Onefollowing the collapse of a takeover bid.

 

December 2019: Conservatives promise a fan-led review in its 2019 general election manifesto in response to Bury's demise.

 

2020-21 season: Covid-19 pandemic causes matches to be held behind closed doors, affecting revenue.

 

April 2021: A proposed European Super League, involving six Premier League clubs, collapses within days amid widespread condemnation from other clubs and players as well as governing bodies, politicians and fans.

 

October 2021: Amnesty International urges changesto the Premier League owners' and directors' test "to address human rights issues" following the Saudi Arabian-backed takeover of Newcastle United.

 

November 2021: An independent regulator is among 10 recommendations made by a fan-led review, chaired by former Sports Minister Tracey Crouch, on how to improve football governance.

 

March 2022: Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is sanctioned by the UK government as part of its response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with Abramovich selling the club to American businessman Todd Boehly in May.

 

November 2022: Representatives of 29 clubs write to the government urging it to press on with plans for an independent football regulator.

 

February 2023: The publication of the UK government's white paper proposing reforms in football was delayed to later in the month.

 

February 2023: The plan for a new independent regulator in English football was confirmed by the government.

 

November 2023: King Charles outlined the government's plan for the Football Governance Bill in the King's Speech.

[SheffWed]

 

[@owlstalk]

3 minutes ago, SheffWed said:

 

 

 

It needs to be rock solid 

 

Otherwise the clubs could just say that the fans forum do that 

 

You know…

 

Those nights where the gimmers all go down to Hillsborough to bow and scrape and give standing ovations to the chairman 

[F. Spiksley]

1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

It needs to be rock solid 

 

Otherwise the clubs could just say that the fans forum do that 

 

You know…

 

Those nights where the gimmers all go down to Hillsborough to bow and scrape and give standing ovations to the chairman 

This is just one of many aspects of the the draft bill that concerns me, as unscrupulous club owners who are masters of shithousery will find ways of ticking boxes and stating they consult.

 

It's a toothless bill in its current form.

 

IMHO 

 

 

UTO 

Edited March 19 by F. Spiksley
Typos

[quinnssweetshop]

1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

It needs to be rock solid 

 

Otherwise the clubs could just say that the fans forum do that 

 

You know…

 

Those nights where the gimmers all go down to Hillsborough to bow and scrape and give standing ovations to the chairman 

  We consulted Wednesday sing and those in the USA that kiss my backside - all is good "

[Dronfield Blue]

5 hours ago, torryowl said:

Why would they get involved in the club badge ?

 

Club heritage.

[torryowl]

7 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

Club heritage.

I think the owl on a branch with sheafs as bit more  heritage about it  than 70s owl .

[Burnsie]

2 hours ago, SheffWed said:

 

Strategic direction you say 

 

 

[Dronfield Blue]

1 hour ago, torryowl said:

I think the owl on a branch with sheafs as bit more  heritage about it  than 70s owl .

 

True, but the fans preferred the previous logo in general. At least on here anyway.

[asteener1867]

1 hour ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

True, but the fans preferred the previous logo in general. At least on here anyway.

didn't the fans vote it in?

can't honestly remember...

[Sykes]

3 hours ago, torryowl said:

I think the owl on a branch with sheafs as bit more  heritage about it  than 70s owl .

 

70s Owl is iconic. It's the basics of having a strong global brand image, and Chansiri just tossed it aside because he has no commercial or business acumen. No wider football fan associates Sheffield Wednesday with our current emblem.

[daveyboy66]

2 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

True, but the fans preferred the previous logo in general. At least on here anyway.

Nope load of scribble...no gravitas 

[OneManBand]

All fart and no poo.

[Hoofit]

Here’s the view from the good people at Fair Game. Football supporters across England really do need to grasp the golden opportunity the bill provides - the more noise made about the need to amend the bill during its passage through parliament to ensure it is as strong & effective as possible when enacted, the better.

 

Your local MP has a key role in making this happen - get lobbying folks!

 

Saying it will never work ain’t going to change anything either - spell out your concerns in a letter or email to your MP instead & influence the process.

 

18 Mar. 2024, LONDON, UK - Fair Game tonight responded to the long-awaited news that a Football Governance Bill will be tabled by the Government tomorrow morning. While the news is welcomed, the devil will be in the detail and some concerns have already been raised around how much power the incoming regulator will have over football’s financial flow. 

Fair Game’s director of advocacy Mike Baker explained:

“This is a significant moment for football with the Government publishing its Bill for an Independent Regulator for English Football.

“This should be a turning point to address all of football’s issues, however, at first glance it looks like it has missed the target.

“The main objective of the Independent Regulator is to ensure the financial sustainability of the pyramid.

"The Government themselves have consistently agreed that the current distribution is unfair - a point only emphasised with the current troubles at Torquay and Rochdale.

“Financial stability has to be the key priority to support the pyramid and this is the overriding purpose of having an Independent Regulator.

“The regulator must have the power to step in and ensure any financial deal between the Premier League and the EFL delivers for the entire football pyramid. Football needs a fair financial flow.

“Without the power to intervene, it will be toothless from the start.”

Baker added:

“We will now be scrutinising the full details in the Bill to ensure that it delivers. 

"In the last couple of weeks, we have met ministers, and repeatedly we have failed to get assurances that the regulator will have the power to intervene. 

“The regulator needs teeth, including bringing a fair financial flow that rewards well-run clubs; a fit for purpose Owners’ and Directors’ Test that actually delivers, and to make sure the European Super League doesn’t rear its ugly head again.

“Fair Game has robustly campaigned for an Independent Regulator and we will continue to do so as communities are losing their beloved football clubs as owners gamble on hitting the big time.

“This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to throw a lifeline to struggling clubs, their employees, communities, and fans across the country. For the sake of the entire football pyramid and clubs like Bury and Macclesfield; Luton and AFC Wimbledon; Reading and Sheffield Wednesday – and many more, politicians must ensure that this opportunity does not go to waste.” 

 

 

[MBMitchell]

Great that we got a mention in this article, but obviously isn't as if we were run correctly we wouldn't have had to be named.

[sheffsteel]

There are a few perceived issues/problems with football, so let's take a few common issues.

 

1: Perceived unfairness regards EFL clubs unable to compete in the PL without the billionaire owners.

2: The Sky TV money distribution that the PL clubs give the EFL.

3: The risk of EFL being run by dodgy owners, so they might go into admin or go bust.

 

I heard the news today and the regulator explained that their primary purpose is option 3.

 

This made me think....I've heard many football fans (Wednesday and United) crying out for investment but they talk about investment like it's free money, when actually it's instant debt.

 

So investment could lead to success (which we all want) but also could lead to option 3.

 

Also regards option 3 this was really common around 2015 but in the last 11 seasons (since FFP) there are only 5 clubs that have gone into admin. So FFP has been a huge success.

 

Regards option 2, if the PL give EFL clubs more money, it just means they spend more,

so doesn't prevent option 3. Think one answer is for the regulator to have an independent accountant looking at the accounts of every club every single season, so there are no financial surprises.

 

This idea was suggested by Steve Gibson a few years ago and was unanimously rejected by EFL Chairman at the annual Chairman's meeting. My concern is that having a regulator sounds good but every club and every fan has self interest, doubt the regulator will have any teeth.

 

The PL has become an incredible success story, in fact football has never been so popular in the England. Clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Newcastle have season ticket waiting lists of 30K. In countries like USA and sadly, even Brazil the PL is more popular than their domestic competition. it's now easily the most watched, most successful, richest league in world football with predictions that it's will become alot bigger totally dwarfing the Spanish and Italian leagues, hence why Real, Barca, Juventus, Milan are so desperate to form a Euro Super league to challenge the English Premier league. Can't see a regulator doing anything to slow down the growth.

 

Also there's no way in the near future any English clubs are leaving the PL for a Euro super league because all the money is in the PL and there's a chance a Euro super league wouldn't be as popular. So in the early days the top English clubs would want their cake and eat it by being in both the PL and a new Euro league to test the waters regards how popular and profitable it could become.

 

 

[HarrowbyOwl]

On 18/03/2024 at 23:45, F. Spiksley said:

 jurisdiction on intervention.

What do you mean by that?

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

23 hours ago, Hoofit said:

Here’s the view from the good people at Fair Game. Football supporters across England really do need to grasp the golden opportunity the bill provides - the more noise made about the need to amend the bill during its passage through parliament to ensure it is as strong & effective as possible when enacted, the better.

 

Your local MP has a key role in making this happen - get lobbying folks!

 

Saying it will never work ain’t going to change anything either - spell out your concerns in a letter or email to your MP instead & influence the process.

 

18 Mar. 2024, LONDON, UK - Fair Game tonight responded to the long-awaited news that a Football Governance Bill will be tabled by the Government tomorrow morning. While the news is welcomed, the devil will be in the detail and some concerns have already been raised around how much power the incoming regulator will have over football’s financial flow. 

Fair Game’s director of advocacy Mike Baker explained:

“This is a significant moment for football with the Government publishing its Bill for an Independent Regulator for English Football.

“This should be a turning point to address all of football’s issues, however, at first glance it looks like it has missed the target.

“The main objective of the Independent Regulator is to ensure the financial sustainability of the pyramid.

"The Government themselves have consistently agreed that the current distribution is unfair - a point only emphasised with the current troubles at Torquay and Rochdale.

“Financial stability has to be the key priority to support the pyramid and this is the overriding purpose of having an Independent Regulator.

“The regulator must have the power to step in and ensure any financial deal between the Premier League and the EFL delivers for the entire football pyramid. Football needs a fair financial flow.

“Without the power to intervene, it will be toothless from the start.”

Baker added:

“We will now be scrutinising the full details in the Bill to ensure that it delivers. 

"In the last couple of weeks, we have met ministers, and repeatedly we have failed to get assurances that the regulator will have the power to intervene. 

“The regulator needs teeth, including bringing a fair financial flow that rewards well-run clubs; a fit for purpose Owners’ and Directors’ Test that actually delivers, and to make sure the European Super League doesn’t rear its ugly head again.

“Fair Game has robustly campaigned for an Independent Regulator and we will continue to do so as communities are losing their beloved football clubs as owners gamble on hitting the big time.

“This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to throw a lifeline to struggling clubs, their employees, communities, and fans across the country. For the sake of the entire football pyramid and clubs like Bury and Macclesfield; Luton and AFC Wimbledon; Reading and Sheffield Wednesday – and many more, politicians must ensure that this opportunity does not go to waste.” 

 

 

 

Year One.

 

The premiership have been engaging in play offs offering massive payments with all the benefit bonuses of Premier League 'Bounce Back'. Only one club should it attain Top three status should regain their old status.

 

Year Two. As above; Only one club should it attain Top three status. A relegated club  should it achieve promotion inside EFL one be promoted to their  old Premiership status. 

 

  Sorry if this comes across as confusing but I'm sure their are a few people who maybe able to put together an amendment which may prove useful.