Emerson Thome Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 In the Premier League at least, it seems that way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Not in League One, as we discovered to our cost last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlinOldham Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Its alive and well in english lower league/non league football. When done right and with a team properly built to play that way, it can still be really effective. We got undone by it and others will do too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 The less technical players play at the lower levels so generally do go a bit longer Moore tries to get us to play the best football possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said: In the Premier League at least, it seems that way.... Loads in the Premier League as any casual observer can see.it’s just called something different ‘ie pin point pass’ ‘quick break’ or similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Long ball is fine..can’t stand pointless passes..City this afternoon..after about 52 minutes..had amassed 400 plus passes..with one shot on target..the penalty..borin and tedious,,especially at our level..gerrit in mixer asap 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Some really interesting general trends in that data. So many clubs becoming more open as they establish themselves over the years. The one hold out being Burnley, who remained route one season after season. Most promoted team start route one or mixed when they first came up. The exceptions being Brentford, who spent years perfecting their style before finally coming up and doing well with their play from the back. And the other two excemptions being Norwich and Fulham who have perfected being yo-yo teams who get PL money every other year and play the same way whether in the Championship or PL. Seems to have been a successful business model for them. But the most interesting thing is how many, until then, established teams have reverted back to route one and then got relegated: Villa, Newcastle, Sunderland all did this after being established for years. But I think this is a chicken and egg situation, with financial woes coming first and them reverting to cheaper, more route one players. I remember it was easy to predict each of those relegations a good 18 months out. With this in mind, I'd be worried if I was a Palace or, especially, an Everton fan. Looks like both teams began that negative transition last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Hopefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, markg said: Hopefully. Just watched Man city and West ham...was crap..city loads of possession.. but like watching paint dry... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 59 minutes ago, bladeshater said: The less technical players play at the lower levels so generally do go a bit longer Moore tries to get us to play the best football possible I'd say this nails it Lower leagues is a bit more hoofball Darren Moore's brand of football is great - attacking, forward thrusting, exciting, and goals! 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, brando said: Just watched Man city and West ham...was crap..city loads of possession.. but like watching paint dry... I can't watch Premier League anymore It's sooooooo dull 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, The coach said: Long ball is fine..can’t stand pointless passes..City this afternoon..after about 52 minutes..had amassed 400 plus passes..with one shot on target..the penalty..borin and tedious,,especially at our level..gerrit in mixer asap Great to watch total football I bet city fans are sick of watching them win trophies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: Great to watch total football I bet city fans are sick of watching them win trophies Dull boring films win oscars 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: Dull boring films win oscars Depends on your taste for me it's how football should be played very few can do it tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Just now, bladeshater said: Depends on your taste for me it's how football should be played very few can do it tho Very true mate Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, brando said: Just watched Man city and West ham...was crap..city loads of possession.. but like watching paint dry... Got to agree. Man City are pretty much the best side in the country, and amongst the best I the world, but I find watching many of their games so dull - to be fair, that’s often because the opposition put everyone behind the ball and City are happy to endlessly pass from side to side until they finally wear the opposition down. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 The long ball was very much alive at MK yesterday…just ask Paterson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbelow Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Great to watch total football I bet city fans are sick of watching them win trophies Good point, but when you have the most money and the best players you should win it. Another 100 million to do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otley Owl Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, brando said: Just watched Man city and West ham...was crap..city loads of possession.. but like watching paint dry... I'm undecided. I want to watch games with skill, passion, and fast passing football. I don't particularly want to watch long ball football, but surely it still has its place in football, particularly lower down the leagues. It's not just long ball, it's fast, direct passing, playing percentages. Watched Man City this afternoon, and there were flashes of really entertaining stuff, but literally hundreds of seemingly unnecessary, slow, pass back to each other passes. I get the skill level was high, and they often switched the play to do it, but passion? Pretty much none. It was one team dominating another for 90 minutes, and I wasn't entertained by it at all. All of these players on tens of thousands a week, wingers (my favourite players) also seem to be being slowly phased out of the game. I just find it as bland as hell to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otley Owl Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, eightbelow said: Good point, but when you have the most money and the best players you should win it. Another 100 million to do the same thing. Man Utd have apparently spent 1 billion since Fergie retired. Commentator mentioned they may need to spend another billion to get close to challenging City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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