richowl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 10 hours ago, mogbad said: The floodlights are over 25 years old and we can no longer get parts for them when individual lights fail, hence nearly a third of them are no longer usable. We can't fit LED bulbs into the old units so the entire system needs replacing. This. my mates company went to quote the job. as you can expect it can be very hard to explain to DC & co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, westy365owl said: Thats the only reason he wants the dali system installed I tried to argue that it would be more useful being able to drop the power settings to keep to set lux levels What's your take on it given that the lights are now probably below standards, is DC going to have to bite the bullet and get the system replaced this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, richowl said: This. my mates company went to quote the job. as you can expect it can be very hard to explain to DC & co. how much was the quote. ball park figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, ANDY said: how much was the quote. ball park figure. I don’t know. all I know is he overpriced it because he didn’t want the job & it was like talking to a brick wall. They wanted to reuse/modify/bodge what was already in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, richowl said: I don’t know. all I know is he overpriced it because he didn’t want the job & it was like talking to a brick wall. They wanted to reuse/modify/bodge what was already in place. now why doesn’t that last sentence surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 What annoys me is when there are legitimately issues at our club like the boiler for undersoil heating or with the floodlights, that we get the same fans coming on telling us there's no issues, that people are just making it up, that we shouldn't be discussing it as it's lies etc etc Then it always transpires that the issue DOES exist Can we all agree now to cut out the nonsense of the same few fans coming on to tell us there's no issue and that we shouldn't be discussing? It would just cut out a load of painful conversations about them trying to censor and stifle what we can discuss, and would also cut out their repeatedly being proven wrong too Ta 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, mogbad said: What's your take on it given that the lights are now probably below standards, is DC going to have to bite the bullet and get the system replaced this summer. It may happen Also depending on how the fa are feeling then it may have to happen if we do gain promotion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, ANDY said: now why doesn’t that last sentence surprise me. How much do you think it would cost and I will tell you if your close to the figures quoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I’m guessing of the order £250k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 59 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: What annoys me is when there are legitimately issues at our club like the boiler for undersoil heating or with the floodlights, that we get the same fans coming on telling us there's no issues, that people are just making it up, that we shouldn't be discussing it as it's lies etc etc Then it always transpires that the issue DOES exist Can we all agree now to cut out the nonsense of the same few fans coming on to tell us there's no issue and that we shouldn't be discussing? It would just cut out a load of painful conversations about them trying to censor and stifle what we can discuss, and would also cut out their repeatedly being proven wrong too Ta The lights are clearly coming to the end of their life. I would expect that the time is approaching when we will be obliged to change to LED lights which are brighter and use less electricity. For what its worth I think the lights currently do their job adequately and given our current financial situation it makes sense to postpone the expenditure involved in a replacement system although I doubt that the delay will be for very much longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: The lights are clearly coming to the end of their life. I would expect that the time is approaching when we will be obliged to change to LED lights which are brighter and use less electricity. For what its worth I think the lights currently do their job adequately and given our current financial situation it makes sense to postpone the expenditure involved in a replacement system although I doubt that the delay will be for very much longer. Agreed ideally the time to change them would be during closed season as we prepare for the new season in the Championship 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, westy365owl said: How much do you think it would cost and I will tell you if your close to the figures quoted I'll go for £2m plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, mogbad said: I'll go for £2m plus So the low figure that was put on earlier in thread was a little to low for the cheapest quote and urs isn't quite enough for the most expensive one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, westy365owl said: So the low figure that was put on earlier in thread was a little to low for the cheapest quote and urs isn't quite enough for the most expensive one I went for £2m plus as I was speaking to a pig fan at the weekend who reckoned their new lights cost £2.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherlyegg Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: be obliged to change to LED lights which are brighter and use less electricity. Generally a 1000w led would replace a 2000w halide and get the same light output. So half the power usage. But the cost of led fittings is far more expensive...far more. The club would never 'save' money or get a roi by switching to Led. Given the previous lighting was good for over 20yrs I can understand the club looking to repair or replace with the same. That's what I would be looking to do at this present time. We could be in this league next season and no money for players cos Chansiry had splashed £3m on all singing and dancing led's. Bet that would go down well. Or Chansiri could write a strongly worded letter to the landlord for not maintaining the stadium properly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: What annoys me is when there are legitimately issues at our club like the boiler for undersoil heating or with the floodlights, that we get the same fans coming on telling us there's no issues, that people are just making it up, that we shouldn't be discussing it as it's lies etc etc Then it always transpires that the issue DOES exist Can we all agree now to cut out the nonsense of the same few fans coming on to tell us there's no issue and that we shouldn't be discussing? It would just cut out a load of painful conversations about them trying to censor and stifle what we can discuss, and would also cut out their repeatedly being proven wrong too Ta This. Does my head in when fans seemingly are prepared to make excuses for third rate infrastructure for fear of bad mouthing the chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 8 hours ago, westy365owl said: How much do you think it would cost and I will tell you if your close to the figures quoted 8 hours ago, kirksandallowl said: I’m guessing of the order £250k 8 hours ago, mogbad said: I'll go for £2m plus my guess was gonna be about a million. im guessing it’ll need new wiring. Transformer circuit panels etc. or is it a case of just swapping one unit for another. im also surmising we won’t need as many units as we currently have seeing as the LEF are brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I'd have said around the 2 to 3 million quid mark for a new system. Lot of money that but DC often complains that he wants to put money in but isn't allowed to so at least he'd get to do that. Our new landlords don't seem very keen on improving the property do they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I reckon almen abdi cost us about what a new lighting system would cost. He'll have been on around 30k a week for 3 seasons? That's over 4 million quid. Adjust up and down for the amount you reckon he was on a week and I bet you're still in the same ballpark as new floodlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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