shandypants Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 This thread reads like the most boring house party you could ever find yourself at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: They have to be maintained to provide the minimum lux standards throughout the season though. I would be very surprised if they meet the minimum standard right now. I suspect you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Thanks. I'm not sure why they cannot be fixed..retro fixed if need be. Unless the enclosures are falling to bits? Parts are available https://www.bltdirect.com/vossloh-schwabe-electronic-superimposed-ignitor-2000-watt-metal-halide I've changed loads...though not on a football stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 9 hours ago, @owlstalk said: If it's a simple cost saving exercise and the lighting is deemed fine to play under then it's a clever and reasonable move from the chairman I venture that if it’s a clever and reasonable move then the chairman knows nowt about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Thanks. I'm not sure why they cannot be fixed..retro fixed if need be. Unless the enclosures are falling to bits? Parts are available https://www.bltdirect.com/vossloh-schwabe-electronic-superimposed-ignitor-2000-watt-metal-halide I've changed loads...though not on a football stadium The problem is the club only use one wholesaler and the price quoted for the parts was through the roof also the lead time to get the parts was at least three months I did get in contact with thorn ( company who made the original fittings regarding retro fitting and they wanted nothing to do with the parts The club has been quoted vast amounts for a new system to be put in as I would start to worry about the aging panel and contactors aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 The current system in place is antiquated and doesn't allow for any flexibility regarding what lights you can have on at any time its just two banks of contactors and its an all or nothing sort of thing I tried to talk club into having the stands separated at least so that you can just have a stand at a time on or have a block on but it would mean a job of changing how the cabling is run at extra cost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, ANDY said: at what percentage does it become unfit/unsafe to play ? im guessing we will need to get them replaced at some point. do you know the cost of replacing the whole lot with LED’s The final decision is down to the referee on the day Soon is the answer And I know what club was quoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 There’s only one more night game at home in a fortnight so should manage to get through to the summer. But sounds like it needs a major overhaul/investment in the summer. @westy365owl can the fittings be accessed without a cherry picker for maintenance? Particularly the Kop & Leppings Lane stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, westy365owl said: 1 hour ago, sherlyegg said: Expand The problem is the club only use one wholesaler and the price quoted for the parts was through the roof also the lead time to get the parts was at least three months The dash for led is making it difficult and expensive to source older parts. Thorn and others are not interested unless buying brand new...and having their lighting engineers call...in my experience anyhow. There is an Italian company supplying 2000w complete fittings (halide) DC ought to get some in, if just for emergency...don't want to watch the play off semi in the dark. If the club are thinking of going the addressable system and starting from scratch. My guess at the cost would be 1 x FF or a 33% of a Jordan Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, westy365owl said: The final decision is down to the referee on the day Soon is the answer And I know what club was quoted so hypothetically if the club (chairman) opted to completely replace the whole lighting system. How long would it take for them to have recouped the investment in money saved on operating costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, kirksandallowl said: There’s only one more night game at home in a fortnight so should manage to get through to the summer. But sounds like it needs a major overhaul/investment in the summer. @westy365owl can the fittings be accessed without a cherry picker for maintenance? Particularly the Kop & Leppings Lane stands. Kop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Kop yes you climb up back of stand and walk across to front lep no you could shimmy across from South if ur daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ANDY said: so hypothetically if the club (chairman) opted to completely replace the whole lighting system. How long would it take for them to have recouped the investment in money saved on operating costs. A fair amount of time Edited March 2, 2022 by westy365owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Get down to Screwfix and buy a load of these LED ones at £19 a pop. I've got one for my back garden and it lights the lawn up brilliantly, it's like daylight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, westy365owl said: A fair amount of time yeah but it’d mean we could do the flashy light show before kick off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, ANDY said: yeah but it’d mean we could do the flashy light show before kick off Thats the only reason he wants the dali system installed I tried to argue that it would be more useful being able to drop the power settings to keep to set lux levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Get down to Screwfix and buy a load of these LED ones at £19 a pop. I've got one for my back garden and it lights the lawn up brilliantly, it's like daylight. They have been fitted on south stand concorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 11 hours ago, marshy said: It is dark, especially in the goal mouth. I noticed that shadows were being cast in the goal mouths. Now I'm not using it as an excuse but, their goal at the kop end "could" have been in part due to the fact that for every player in and around the six yard area there was also a shadow cast. Yes it took a deflection but regardless it should be so much lighter. Isn’t the point of floodlights that shadows are cast…….in fact the better the lights the more shadows. You seem to be arguing with yourself here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, westy365owl said: They have been fitted on south stand concorse Can't you point them towards the pitch. You don't need them on the concourse, you might be able see what's inside the pie you're eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ian said: Isn’t the point of floodlights that shadows are cast…….in fact the better the lights the more shadows. You seem to be arguing with yourself here No if you have lots of even soft lighting fully down all 4 sides of the pitch. Even lighting with no shadows is what you want. Watching the Luton v Chelsea game now, the lighting is awful, patchy with lots of shadows. It's like there's 40 players on the pitch. Mind you there ground is a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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