Lincs Owl Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: We left too much to chance, by my reckoning. We had the beating of Huddersfield but were happy to play out a 0-0 draw at theirs when they had to field a 22-year-old 'keeper who'd only played 5 Championship games up to that point. Then in the second leg, rather than pushing on after taking the lead, we seemed content to protect what we had, which opened the door for Huddersfield to get back into the game. If we'd really gone for them, we should have been out of sight by the time Fletcher got injured. You make it sound easy. What was to stop the players 'pushing on'? Haven't they got a brain between them? I don't know why we didn't test their keeper more in the first leg. We should have. Don't need a manager to tell them that. Can't imagine CC telling the team he didn't want them to attack. Anyway, I expected us to get relegated once he'd left. I'm surprised it took 4 years. Like it or not, we're just another 2nd tier/3rd tier yo-yo team. Since 1970 we've managed just 15 years in the top flight out of 51 seasons. Finishing 6th and 4th in the 2nd tier is the best we've achieved this century. I think the next best was 9th under Laws. It's a shocking record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, 83owl said: Yes Bruce was a very successful appointment I think the writing was on the wall when he preferred to carry on watching cricket to managing us. Quite apart from regularly calling us 'Sheffield'. Yes, he might have built us a good side, but he decided to booger off when a bigger club came knocking..... as did Catterick Wilkinson and Atkinson before him. Seems to be a Wednesday thing. However, back to Carlos........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meadows Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Wednesday_Jack said: totally agree and even if your pro Carlos or not (there is a split view)…he cost us the playoff semi final game at home to Huddersfield. Totally. wasnt helped by Wallace going off injured though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 hours ago, The coach said: I would say away to huddersfield.. The away leg was horrific.. they had a rookie keeper in goal and we just sat with 2 banks of 4 and nullified the game, basically happy to 0-0 and make it a one leg tie at Hillsborough. Problem with that was that if you’re the better side 2 legs favour you, 1 leg anything can happen. So didn’t kill the game, took Fletcher off and ended up drawing. If we’d attacked both games we’d have got through as we beat them home and away in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, TheEnchanter said: He murdered us from the Huddersfield Play off game to the Pigs at home. He was decent before that. People were already moaning around the time we were outside the top 6 in March.. we only made play offs after winning 6 in a row and Leeds imploding, we finished 4th but we looked like 7th was likely with 7 games to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: You make it sound easy. What was to stop the players 'pushing on'? Haven't they got a brain between them? I don't know why we didn't test their keeper more in the first leg. We should have. Don't need a manager to tell them that. Can't imagine CC telling the team he didn't want them to attack. Anyway, I expected us to get relegated once he'd left. I'm surprised it took 4 years. Like it or not, we're just another 2nd tier/3rd tier yo-yo team. Since 1970 we've managed just 15 years in the top flight out of 51 seasons. Finishing 6th and 4th in the 2nd tier is the best we've achieved this century. I think the next best was 9th under Laws. It's a shocking record. The way we set up for those games was dictated by the manager at the time. You can't expect an individual player to start going gung-ho when the obvious gameplan was to keep things tight and look to nick a goal - they'd be subbed off and bombed out of the squad before they knew it. Carvalhal was delighted with the 0-0, in which we mustered zero shots on target: and had 31% possession: "It is a positive result. If you go away in the play-off semi-final and you return to play the home game at 0-0, it is very, very positive." At the time, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought bringing them back to Hillsborough with the scores level was a sensible approach, as I assumed we'd really go for them in the second leg. Alas, we managed only three shots on target in the 120 minutes of the second leg...meaning we ended 210 minutes of football against Huddersfield Town with a grand total of three shots on target. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Carlos was is typical of that explosion of recruitment from chansiri it was pretty remarkable and changed our club quality signed playing expansive football unfortunately it ended there the recruitment team broke up signings become worst injuries mounted the football was a long way off what we was served in season one abs the decline again had started the decisions, football, and signings since Carlos departure has seen us fast track to league one and sit with financial restrains meaning we can only sign free transfers or loans for the second transfer window in a row whilst it was the right decision to part company at the time and his successor nothing short that disastrous. The Carlos period is the most exiting times and the football the most enjoyable since our days of watching waddle and in 1993 nearly 30 years ago. I can believe we got everything nearly perfect in that first season to to completely explode and end up back here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I still miss him. We haven’t been the same since 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobness Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 There was no way Carlos was gonna stay once his boyhood club came knocking 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 12 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Right decision to get rid but what a period of abject bobbar that has followed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 As ever its the detail that kills the non story, once Roeder and co left it all went downhill and quickly, we never rose above play off contenders, miles away from title winners. Spaffed it allover the ceiling, and still are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 18 hours ago, sage owl said: I said at the time and still believe if we’d replaced him with someone like Bruce we’d have got promoted. But DC went cheap and left field and we ended up here. I’d love to know who decided on Jos and why. Paxo ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 He was a Car Salesman And good at it too We all believed he had sold us a Tesla In the end we wanted our money back 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 He was brilliant for the first time in years fans watched the game instead of talking to their group, just enjoying the brilliance of the football feast laid before them. Happy Christmas Carlos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 24/12/2021 at 07:47, @owlstalk said: 4 Years, and we JUST recovering from his mismanagement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 16 hours ago, fpowl said: Carlos was is typical of that explosion of recruitment from chansiri it was pretty remarkable and changed our club quality signed playing expansive football unfortunately it ended there the recruitment team broke up signings become worst injuries mounted the football was a long way off what we was served in season one abs the decline again had started the decisions, football, and signings since Carlos departure has seen us fast track to league one and sit with financial restrains meaning we can only sign free transfers or loans for the second transfer window in a row whilst it was the right decision to part company at the time and his successor nothing short that disastrous. The Carlos period is the most exiting times and the football the most enjoyable since our days of watching waddle and in 1993 nearly 30 years ago. I can believe we got everything nearly perfect in that first season to to completely explode and end up back here A ONE season wonder, that c0st us million's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 24/12/2021 at 16:38, LondonOwl313 said: People were already moaning around the time we were outside the top 6 in March.. we only made play offs after winning 6 in a row and Leeds imploding, we finished 4th but we looked like 7th was likely with 7 games to go Wednesdayites are always moaning. Full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 10 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: 4 Years, and we JUST recovering from his mismanagement. He wasnt a manager. He was a coach And if you think our current position indicates recovery you're welcome to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 10 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: A ONE season wonder, that c0st us million's. Which was the ONE season though? Finishing 6th and Wembley or.... Finishing 4th and winning 6 of our last 7 league matches. Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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