John Middleton Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: My Dad spent millions at the casino Lost everything from his home to his business Should I also be praising HIM? FFS my point exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) There is a counter push back here. The Chairman has taken a few tentative steps for the good in the right direction that is to be applauded. some of the haters won't give in though, let us relax and give him a chance to flourish. Everyone was up his arse in the spendagedon era ! Edited August 10, 2021 by nevthelodgemoorowl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 hours ago, @owlstalk said: This is quite an incredible achievement considering how it’s been in recent years with a standoff between the chairman and the former box holders Someone at the club has done a top job here and must have been giving assurances that the prices will be more realistic and the chairman won’t be in the picture It will have took some real work to get these sold Well done SWFC and the team responsible this is brilliant ................and no curry sauce in sight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On a serious note, thats going to be an extra 500k of income for the club if they are all sold out. Can only be good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 hours ago, room0035 said: How many fans do you know that are vat registered, companies are but not fans, just quote the prices gross. Business expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Never mind the pricing have a look at the margins and the bottom line. Chansiri was correct in asserting that the corporate customer was not a great earner for a club outside the top flight. 4 hours ago, Grandad said: He absolutely wasn't right at all... But I'm interested to hear your view on this. Be specific. 50 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: There is a counter push back here. The Chairman has taken a few tentative steps for the good in the right direction that is to be applauded. some of the haters won't give in though, let us relax and give him a chance to flourish. Everyone was up his arse in the spendagedon era ! *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Just to Chuck another dimension into the debate, me and a few mates sponsored a player every year. I can’t remember the amount but we chucked in, and it was good to feel part of the club, and you got a cracking night out with the players. But the price went up a stupid amount, and we said no, thats stupid, they’re pulling our pants down. I think quite a lot of others did too, and, as with the boxes, not only is the money not coming in but you are upsetting your fans/ customers. Basic economics really, put the price up a little bit no one notices. Put it up a lot and people go WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, steelowl said: What isn't factored in by many to the pricing and profit or not on the boxes, is the increased connection to the community and local business via corporate guests and the goodwill it generates now and in the future. That is the tack that should've been employed from the start; as should an affordable ticket pricing policy, but we are where we are, hopefully starting on a new course so supporting it is important. I'd like to see interaction with schools and clubs again, trying to get those kids engaged with the club it's incredibly important for the future. Spot on, it’s engaging with the businesses that also employ your supporters. And it’s not just boxes that these businesses support, they also take out tables at club events throughout the year. It’s thousands of pounds, and considering we have just been relegated owed to botched accounting wizardry it really does show up how stupid the Chairman’s actions were alienating these people to begin with. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 But can we also appreciate that chansiri / Dooley, has realised it’s been a clusterfuck, and are putting it right. season ticket prices/ boxes / potg/ kit/ signings have all been good. “ rejoice in that” as some crazy old bird once said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: There is a counter push back here. The Chairman has taken a few tentative steps for the good in the right direction that is to be applauded. some of the haters won't give in though, let us relax and give him a chance to flourish. Everyone was up his arse in the spendagedon era ! Funny how as the arch Marxist and anti establishment figure in the politics section you’re now cheerleader-in-chief for a plutocrat. I can’t keep up Edited August 10, 2021 by owls maniac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, owls maniac said: Funny how as the arch Marxist and anti establishment figure in the politics section you’re now cheerleader-in-chief for a plutocrat. I can’t keep up I’m with nev. it’s cool to hate everyone now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, prowl said: That's one way of looking at it...but. If you borrowed money to build/develop the boxes then that has to be paid back so you've got to add that in. Any business asset is written down in value over a set period or over it's lifetime. If you don't add a bit on (quite a bit) you get to the end of the life of the asset when it becomes useless and you've got no money to replace it. Nothing is ever simple. There has been no money spent on Hillsborough since the redevelopment for Euro 96. DC can spent on the stadium, he can improve the youth facilities and the training ground. No affect what so ever from P&S but he chooses to spend nothing to improve the infrastructure. he hasn't even given the very tired looking stadium a new lick of paint. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, Plonk said: Just to Chuck another dimension into the debate, me and a few mates sponsored a player every year. I can’t remember the amount but we chucked in, and it was good to feel part of the club, and you got a cracking night out with the players. But the price went up a stupid amount, and we said no, thats stupid, they’re pulling our pants down. I think quite a lot of others did too, and, as with the boxes, not only is the money not coming in but you are upsetting your fans/ customers. Basic economics really, put the price up a little bit no one notices. Put it up a lot and people go WTF. I know someone that spent £1k a year - then was told the following season it was £5k for the same player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Plonk said: But can we also appreciate that chansiri / Dooley, has realised it’s been a clusterfuck, and are putting it right. season ticket prices/ boxes / potg/ kit/ signings have all been good. “ rejoice in that” as some crazy old bird once said. Absolutely Credit where its due. Well done Liam Dooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: There is a counter push back here. The Chairman has taken a few tentative steps for the good in the right direction that is to be applauded. some of the haters won't give in though, let us relax and give him a chance to flourish. Everyone was up his arse in the spendagedon era ! The fact that Chansiri has elected to be far less personally involved in the running of the club, and that the EFL are forcing us to operate in a market where there is no longer anything in it for his 'advisers', can only be good news. Long may it continue. But let's not pretend he wasn't arseing around not paying the players in a fit of pique over them getting him relegated literally a month ago, and was putting out passive aggressive statements about how everything was everyone's fault but his about a fortnight ago. Or that we are not still one patented Chansiri self-destructive episode away from a 6 point deduction. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: My Dad spent millions at the casino Lost everything from his home to his business Should I also be praising HIM? FFS If it was your Casino, too bloody right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvin Parsnip Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Grandad said: Never understood the pie at full time idea - basically just a couple of hours after a 3 course meal in a box. To put a pie in front of people who have just had a 5 course meal 2 hours previously is even more bizarre It’s just a way of getting rid of unsold pies ….ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 So over the season how much profit can the club expect to make from the corporate side of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: So over the season how much profit can the club expect to make from the corporate side of things? I have it on (excellent authority) that pre Chansiri the boxes alone made well over £200k a season profit, after all costs paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Just now, Grandad said: I have it on (excellent authority) that pre Chansiri the boxes alone made well over £200k a season profit, after all costs paid. How much do you reckon for this season? Isn't it a lot of effort for 200 grand? Genuine question no idea if that's a good return or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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