Dick_Turpin Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Owls-Fan said: Not official but I’ve heard Chansiri and young Att are appearing on the next series of The Bidding Room As long as they don't try The Repair Shop first - they'll tell them to FRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: Chansiri probably thinks: "This lot had had no money put into it for 15 years before I came." "I'd no choice but gamble, and but for Hooper I nearly did it." "I made mistakes, but you've got to be in there pitching to make them." "I've put my money where my mouth is and I ain't walking away empty-handed." That might have washed up until the Summer of 2017 - what about the last 3 1/2 years? He's taken us into L1 through sheer incompetence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: I guess what I’m trying to say is the club isn’t worth anything because revenue streams aren’t there and won’t be for a long while even with someone who is very competent. hence me saying back then and even more so now it would be very hard to find a new owner if it ever came to it. only a madman would see us as a viable option, unless Ofc we go into admin but then we have the ground issue, which again is going to cause big issues for any suitors. I agree with you the club is a complete basket case from an income and overall financial perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton9owl Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 hours ago, nbupperthongowl said: These factors would be taken into account when a bid is submitted....so an even lower valuation.... which will never be accepted, so we are stuck with DC As I’ve said in an earlier post if I was looking to buy SWFC I would not want to negotiate with the current owner who quite evidently grossly over-values the business/club. Chansiri has some big bills to pay in the near future and if he has no current income from next season’s ticket sales etc he will yet again have to dig deep to come up with the money to settle the bills. That’s when any potential buyer will strike when Chansiri is vulnerable due to a continual mount up of debts and the prospect of Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, bolton9owl said: As I’ve said in an earlier post if I was looking to buy SWFC I would not want to negotiate with the current owner who quite evidently grossly over-values the business/club. Chansiri has some big bills to pay in the near future and if he has no current income from next season’s ticket sales etc he will yet again have to dig deep to come up with the money to settle the bills. That’s when any potential buyer will strike when Chansiri is vulnerable due to a continual mount up of debts and the prospect of Administration. And be left with the same big bills to pay and, as you say, no income to help. Sounds very enticing to any prospective new owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 14/04/2021 at 22:49, Therealrealist said: Hearing tonight from unofficial sources..that the club is officially up for sale..anybody heard same?..it seems fair dinkum Can only bloody hope so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Mcguigan said: And be left with the same big bills to pay and, as you say, no income to help. Sounds very enticing to any prospective new owner. Good job that we have a play off squad then and plenty of players with a resale value to offset this issue....oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Athelwulf said: Chansiri probably thinks: "This lot had had no money put into it for 15 years before I came." "I'd no choice but gamble, and but for Hooper I nearly did it." "I made mistakes, but you've got to be in there pitching to make them." "I've put my money where my mouth is and I ain't walking away empty-handed." Walking away empty handed is what he risked when he decided to treat SWFC like a fruit-machine not a business. He’s put his money in the slot, spun the wheel and lost. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton9owl Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Mcguigan said: And be left with the same big bills to pay and, as you say, no income to help. Sounds very enticing to any prospective new owner. The players that have been draining the club for years will be gone and if Chansiri is also ‘gone’ thousands of fans will be back to Hillsborough buying well priced merchandise and season tickets, beer and pies all adding extra turnover and profit. ’If you build it they will come’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, bolton9owl said: The players that have been draining the club for years will be gone and if Chansiri is also ‘gone’ thousands of fans will be back to Hillsborough buying well priced merchandise and season tickets, beer and pies all adding extra turnover and profit. ’If you build it they will come’ Really, they didn't before DC came in. What will change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton9owl Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mcguigan said: Really, they didn't before DC came in. What will change? I know where you’re coming from but for once try to lose the negativity and try and be a bit positive. Ask yourself the question - Why do I go and there’s your answer. More fans will return when they are not been ‘fleeced’ at the turnstiles, when the blue and white side of the city want to be part of the ‘fight back’ Come on Mcguigan try for once to look on the bright side - all this negativity has Chansiri written all over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 hours ago, 2roland2 said: I guess what I’m trying to say is the club isn’t worth anything because revenue streams aren’t there and won’t be for a long while even with someone who is very competent. hence me saying back then and even more so now it would be very hard to find a new owner if it ever came to it. only a madman would see us as a viable option, unless Ofc we go into admin but then we have the ground issue, which again is going to cause big issues for any suitors. People don't buy clubs based on current revenue stream when they are outside the premier league though. It's peanuts in comparison. We'll never appeal to the treading water type investor either, our only appeal is where we could potentially end up. Even from league one, we are one of very few clubs worth the gamble of making it to the premier league, much like Sunderland, Forest, Derby and any other club who would get attendances of 35k+ in the top division with a decent catchment area for fans. The money available in the top division, coupled with commercial opportunities is so vast that it appeals to many people's ego. Chansiri was never rich enough to make up for his flaws in business though, nor was he smart enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, bolton9owl said: I know where you’re coming from but for once try to lose the negativity and try and be a bit positive. Ask yourself the question - Why do I go and there’s your answer. More fans will return when they are not been ‘fleeced’ at the turnstiles, when the blue and white side of the city want to be part of the ‘fight back’ Come on Mcguigan try for once to look on the bright side - all this negativity has Chansiri written all over it. Maybe I just start posting replies with inaccuracies then eh. A dose of realism needed rather than blue and white tinted specs. You stick to your positivity mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Don't let the shyster paxo or anyone of his like near the club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, 0742 said: People don't buy clubs based on current revenue stream when they are outside the premier league though. It's peanuts in comparison. We'll never appeal to the treading water type investor either, our only appeal is where we could potentially end up. Even from league one, we are one of very few clubs worth the gamble of making it to the premier league, much like Sunderland, Forest, Derby and any other club who would get attendances of 35k+ in the top division with a decent catchment area for fans. The money available in the top division, coupled with commercial opportunities is so vast that it appeals to many people's ego. Chansiri was never rich enough to make up for his flaws in business though, nor was he smart enough. That probably rules us out then. I might be wrong, but can’t really recall our average attendances ever being that high. Not easy to attract that many people regularly in a two club city with no history of success to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 If just 300 of us put in a million quid each, we could buy it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onslow Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) From a story in the times about One Hyde Park....if you had this money to spend, what football club would you buy..! I think I’d rather go with the Rolex watches and hand them out on the Kop with the programme man Edited April 16, 2021 by onslow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Mcguigan said: And be left with the same big bills to pay and, as you say, no income to help. Sounds very enticing to any prospective new owner. Not to mention paying back this season's season ticket money as well. Those back to the premier league tickets are looking like good value now. It like a lifetime season ticket for £5,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, onslow said: From a story in the times about One Hyde Park....if you had this money to spend, what football club would you buy..! I think I’d rather go with the Rolex watches and hand them out on the Kop with the programme man Give it one full season with the pound land Prince in the championship and you will be about to buy 25 Sheffield United. he has destroyed and asset stripped every club he has owed. Wait for this close season anyone with a value will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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