pat blondeau Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Just looking back at the 2015-2016 season our average attendance was 22641 which many argue saw some of the best football we have seen in a long time at Hillsborough. Again you would have thought that more supporters would have attended games. I bet we took more than 22641 to Wembley for the play off final? So perhaps the attendance on Wednesday night was to be expected rather than me mistakenly assuming it would be a sell out. There’s not been many paying on the gate since Chansiri took over. The season after Wembley the average attendance went up to around 27k mainly on the back of increased ST sales. Now attendances are falling and the club isn’t doing anything to stop them falling. We’ll have to see how far crowds drop before they start going back up again. On Derby, they’ve consistently had higher gates than us for the last 20 years so no surprise they filled it this week and we didn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 55 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: The players come and go. We as fans are the constant as are the 11 shirts that are sent out. We mock other clubs for their attendances and claim that if we were at the top we would be selling out. We were third at Christmas but didn't sell out. When the cup draw was made I was looking forward to a full house. Sadly it didnt materialise and maybe our support base should be measured when the going is tough not when there is a clamour for a day out at Wembley. Or maybe the club hasn't galvanised the fanbase like it could and should have. Things have been drifting for a while, No other business blames its customers like football does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: There’s not been many paying on the gate since Chansiri took over. The season after Wembley the average attendance went up to around 27k mainly on the back of increased ST sales. Now attendances are falling and the club isn’t doing anything to stop them falling. We’ll have to see how far crowds drop before they start going back up again. On Derby, they’ve consistently had higher gates than us for the last 20 years so no surprise they filled it this week and we didn’t The club tried to move fans from POTG to having season tickets which was a model the likes of Derby pushed. While we dont have many POTG these days our attendances have averaged around 22500 over the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: The club tried to move fans from POTG to having season tickets which was a model the likes of Derby pushed. While we dont have many POTG these days our attendances have averaged around 22500 over the last 20 years. Which is the correct way forward in my opinion Sadly the club overcharged this and also messed up with how they dealt with the multi year deals Now we are in a complete tangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, torres said: Which is the correct way forward in my opinion Sadly the club overcharged this and also messed up with how they dealt with the multi year deals Now we are in a complete tangle Also ridiculous deadlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, full fathom five said: Also ridiculous deadlines This times was a complete disaster - i just meant in general before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: The club tried to move fans from POTG to having season tickets which was a model the likes of Derby pushed. While we dont have many POTG these days our attendances have averaged around 22500 over the last 20 years. Unless something changes we won’t average that next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, bigthinrob said: Prior to last nights match, playing similar sort of high profile opposition, I wondered if the 'loyal' Derby fans would react to all their equivalent 'mismanagement' & underachievement in the same way as our 'loyal' lot. Yes. I've no doubt if they had been pumped at home like we have, been beaten by the bottom clubs, shown no desire to win games, had so called super stars going through the motions and had a manager that would send a glass eye to sleep.... Then my guess is yes. Added to the fact it was Man utd, (a far bigger draw than Man City) and at least you have a chance of getting a result against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: The club tried to move fans from POTG to having season tickets which was a model the likes of Derby pushed. While we dont have many POTG these days our attendances have averaged around 22500 over the last 20 years. The club has tried a few stunts whilst under Chansiri and Doyen with tickets and prices havent they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wednesday_Jack said: We was on free view TV...Derby were on BT..........just saying like!! Who has BT though ? everyone has BBC . Tv definitely influenced our crowd along with awful performances of late . Not forgetting Chansiri and is good ole ticket prices !! Edited March 6, 2020 by dewsburyowl58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, torres said: We have one of the best hardcore supports in the country,we will get 18-22k most weeks in this or league 1, despite being totally garbage on and off the pitch for decades That will increase when the Garrido's see us doing well - so they can pretend again for a while It's just what it is. I just wish it was a bit cheaper for the loyal supporters Exactly. I will accept no criticism of our support, it's tremendous. It was also our third home game in 7 days, so a £100 plus layout for casuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtawnyowl Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ANDY said: Just out of interest what were ticket prices for derby v Man U ST holders: Child £10 Senior £15 Adult £25 POTG: Child. £15 Senior £25 Adult. £30 So cheaper tickets not the reason for Derby's sell-out crowd. In fact, taking the child and senior prices into consideration, our prices were slightly cheaper. Edited March 6, 2020 by oldtawnyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 who cares really? just move on FFS it's so boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Bulgaria said: so called super stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Beholder said: I think we would have sold alot more for manu. definately. The guaranteed defeat vs Citeh put me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, latemodelchild said: Yep, loads of our fans didn't turn up on Wednesday night for one reason or another. The reasons have been explained and discussed on here numerous times. Those of us that went supported the club financially and vocally for the whole game. We have a hardcore support of about 20k. We have a floating support of similar. We have a passing support of about the same. So 60k or so that we can tap into when the going is good. The going isn't good at the moment so the 20k was made up of hardcore and floating supporters the other night. Many season ticket holders, rest potg regulars. Add in some first timers cos it was man City and that's you're makeup I reckon. Not sure what point I'm making but it all just tumbled out. 60K? We haven't averaged 30K for over 50 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: We fail to sell tickets for a cup game against one of the best teams in the world. Maybe our support base isn't as good as we would like to think it is. Your right, it isnt, our away support is great but at home we'd be aswell playing in front of no1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Grandad said: Who are the worst kind of Wednesday fans? Fans who didnt go on Wednesday? Or fans who take every opportunity to slag off our fans? Oh stop doing attention seeking soundbites, it's supposed to be a grown up debate FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Oh stop doing attention seeking soundbites, it's supposed to be a grown up debate FFS. All you ever do is tell fans how crap they are and by association how amazing you are (And the crap ones are people who's view you disagree with) That's hardly grown up debating Edited March 6, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: All you ever do is tell fans how crap they are and by association how amazing you are That's hardly grown up debating Stop being so pathetically childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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